1K Club - QQ Shooting Star
- Mar 8, 2002
Have you heard the actual quad mix? It's unbelievably excellent...not surprised it decodes nicely with PLII.FWIW, the "stereo quad mix" of this album streaming on Spotify does some very interesting stuff decoded by PLII. I wouldn't say it is necessarily "accurate" but there is definitely a lot of stuff going on. In particular, the end of "Here They Come" bounces all around the four speakers quite discretely.
Me wonders whether these stereo mix downs of quad mixes retain any of the out of phase stuff that SQ and QS records relied up and that PLII sends to the rear channels.
I have read this about switching front with back but i haven´t liked the idea of having the guitars in the back.
My solution was to switch everything clockwise an quarter.
After that i lowered the back channels 30%.
This suits my equipment best i think as i want the main sound to come from the front.
It actually follows the stereo track quite well with where the sound comes on it.
It really has an good stereo track also so both ways of listening to this excellent album if wonderful.
But now i can fully appreciate the surround track also
This is a remarkable mix. Even considering that the channels might be reversed. It is extremely discrete, with excellent sound quality. Not to mention carrying one of the top five rock songs of all time ("I'd Love to Change the World". (My opinion of course. ;-)
The previous quad mix I heard, presumably taken from Q4, suffered from horribly distorted and weak guitar in the last half of ILTCTW. In this release the guitar sounds like it's supposed to.
This is a 9 for me. I'll make a version with F/R swapped to see if it would be a 10.
I can tell you the swapped version is definitely the way it's intended to be...not really sure why anyone would like lead vocals in the back. Personally I love the mix on I'd Love To Change The World and include it on most of my personal sampler discs as it blasts the song wide open and fully reveals buried instrumentation in the stereo (the acoustic guitars strumming in the front during the rear guitar solo are particularly cool).So I tried the F/R swap. Mixed bag based on a comparison of ILTCTW. Vocals are dramatically improved! However two new (lesser) issues crop up for me. First, the lead electric guitar is moved to the rear. For me it's the album co-star, just after vocals, and belongs in the front. Second, the drums move to the rear - not my favorite positioning.
In the net I prefer the swap because the vocals are significantly better. I'll live with the other shortcomings of the swap. This is still a 9 with channel swap....I'll keep both versions on the server.