The Demise of disc formats

[MagnumX]

Legality should never be confused with morality.

In Dungeons and Dragons you've got Lawful good, Neutral good and Chaotic good. There's also Lawful Evil, Neutral evil and Chaotic Evil along with True Neutral, although that one is often associated with psychotic people.

Lawful good follow the rules no matter what. They believe in the LAW (hence lawful).

Neutral good doesn't follow stupid or evil rules (Think for yourself).

Chaotic good doesn't think too much, but is good natured.

Lawful evil tries to make laws or uses laws or loopholes thereof to do selfish things. (Typical politician).

Neutral evil tends to obey the good laws only out of fear of being caught, but would break them in a heartbeat if they feel they can get away with it.

Chaotic evil lives for evil or selfish acts at any cost, even risking man hunts, etc. (typical cartoonish villain or serial killer).

True Neutral is utterly ambivalent (no feelings either way towards good or evil or the law) and thus tends to be mentally ill as they simply don't care one way or the other about anything.

In reality, some may vary over time but I've always thought almost any human behavior or action can fit under under one of those seven headings.

I've always felt I was neutral good except when extremely depressed when True Neutral makes so much sense as I simply don't give a crap anymore.

Copyrights? Fair use makes sense. The DMCA taken literally with no fair use allowed is lawful evil, IMO.

 

[Sonik Wiz]

Ran across a bit of news today I thought relevant to this thread....

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/disney-sony-pysical-media-dvd-blu-ray-disc-business-1235917294/

Now this is more of a transference of physical media sales rather than an elimination. But I think it's freaky odd when Disney no longer wants to control their IP & leaves it to Sony.

 

[Bill B]

Ran across a bit of news today I thought relevant to this thread....

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/disney-sony-pysical-media-dvd-blu-ray-disc-business-1235917294/

Now this is more of a transference of physical media sales rather than an elimination. But I think it's freaky odd when Disney no longer wants to control their IP & leaves it to Sony.

This was also reported by The Digital Bits with some added insights....

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/022024-1000

A lot more insights of what this means industry-wise by Bill Hunt if you read the complete post but the specifics are below...



Regarding the Disney/Sony physical media news that we broke this morning here on The Digital Bits, we’ve learned the following additional information from our industry sources:

• Once again, we’ve confirmed that Disney is indeed in the process of transitioning to a licensed physical media distribution model via a new agreement with Sony Entertainment.
• As part of this deal, Sony will market, sell, and distribute new Disney releases plus catalog titles on physical media (4K Ultra HD, Blu-ray, DVD, etc.) to consumers through retailers and distributors in the U.S. and Canada.
• This shift is consistent with other strategies that Disney is working to implement company-wide, as exemplified by the company’s recent transitions in other markets.
• Per usual, Disney regularly evaluates their approach to the physical media market as the home entertainment business and industry at large continue to rapidly evolve alongside consumer behavior.
• This agreement will allow Disney to continue offering its films and TV shows via physical media retailers and distributors, and most importantly to disc consumers more efficiently.
• The transition for Disney handing over its physical media operations to Sony has recently commenced and will probably take several month to complete.
• The first Disney title that will be managed by Sony on physical media will be The First Omen (20th Century Studios), which arrives in theaters on 4/5/24 (digital and physical street dates are TBD will be announced in the coming months).

 

[Sal1950]

There was an interview of Steven Wilson by Mike Mettler in the just published March 2024 issue of Stereophile, and in it he was asked about the "demise" of hard media. Steven stated that "in his opinion" hard media will continue to be around for a long time due to there being a "niche" market (US) that do care about getting the very best sounding quality product available. He also made mention of the fact that there have been more BluRay Atmos discs released with each year over the last three years. It's a pretty good interview all in all, but it did make me laugh the way the interviewer squeezed Steven to get him to say something good about vinyl. LOL
In about another 30 days or so the interview should go public and I'll link it here when allowed..
Sad that the interviewer calls Steven "A Master of Immersive Music" but no where in the interview did he mention that he had actually listened to any of Stevens surround mixes. (or stereo for that matter?

 

[4-earredwonder]

Ran across a bit of news today I thought relevant to this thread....

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/disney-sony-pysical-media-dvd-blu-ray-disc-business-1235917294/

Now this is more of a transference of physical media sales rather than an elimination. But I think it's freaky odd when Disney no longer wants to control their IP & leaves it to Sony.

IMO, actually a good thing, SW. Disney has been remiss in releasing their BD~Vs and 4K discs on a timely basis. And Sony will not only be releasing future Disney/20th Century FOX titles [NOW controlled by Disney] on a more regular schedule and not only that ....SONY has a stellar reputation for releasing state of the art BD~V and UHD4K discs and we'll probably be seeing a lot of those back catalogue titles remixed into ATMOS as well [as SONY has done with their 4K Classic Film Collections]. And lest we forget, SONY is the inventor of both the BD~V and 4K formats!

 

[Sonik Wiz]

IMO, actually a good thing, SW. Disney has been remiss in releasing their BD~Vs and 4K discs on a timely basis. And Sony will not only be releasing future Disney/20th Century FOX titles [NOW controlled by Disney] on a more regular schedule and not only that ....SONY has a stellar reputation for releasing state of the art BD~V and UHD4K discs and we'll probably be seeing a lot of those back catalogue titles remixed into ATMOS as well [as SONY has done with their 4K Classic Film Collections]. And lest we forget, SONY is the inventor of both the BD~V and 4K formats!

Abd what will they do with the magnificent releases on Disney associated Buena Vista Home Video and otherwise?

 

[Mr. Afternoon]

Wonder if Sony may finally liberate some foreign films that Disney has licenses for...I'd kill for some new Bollywood Blu-rays (I think the last one we got was all the way back in 2019).

 

[4-earredwonder]

Abd what will they do with the magnificent releases on Disney associated Buena Vista Home Video and otherwise?

Make them even MORE magnificent, SW.

 

[Sonik Wiz]

Make them even MORE magnificent, SW.

If they care to. Can't see them doing better or more than what has already been done for the Ghibli films

 

[4-earredwonder]

If they care to. Can't see them doing better or more than what has already been done for the Ghibli films

I divide my hobbies Music and FILM equally, SW, and read a ton of reviews ... and the trend lately is for the major film companies to allocate a lot of their back catalogue titles to reissue companies like SHOUT/SCREAM FACTORY and KINO LORBER, often with stellar results. And even German film 'specialists' Turbine Media and UK's StudioCanal have gotten in on the act and likewise hardly ever disappoint!

And truth be told, a LOT of the major companies like Warner and NOW, Disney have laid off a significant number of staff members to reduce overhead and thus the switch to outsourcing their films to other reissue companies although WARNER with their excellent ARCHIVE releases still do their own in house restorations, etc.

It's just a sign of the times! Even the giant tech companies have been reducing their staffs....thus overhead...to maximize profits.

 

[Marplot]

I just wish we would get some of those Godzilla 4ks over here with subtitles ... other than hai and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggh Gojira I need the subtitles.

 

[Mackspower]

This was also reported by The Digital Bits with some added insights....

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/022024-1000

A lot more insights of what this means industry-wise by Bill Hunt if you read the complete post but the specifics are below...



Regarding the Disney/Sony physical media news that we broke this morning here on The Digital Bits, we’ve learned the following additional information from our industry sources:

• Once again, we’ve confirmed that Disney is indeed in the process of transitioning to a licensed physical media distribution model via a new agreement with Sony Entertainment.
• As part of this deal, Sony will market, sell, and distribute new Disney releases plus catalog titles on physical media (4K Ultra HD, Blu-ray, DVD, etc.) to consumers through retailers and distributors in the U.S. and Canada.
• This shift is consistent with other strategies that Disney is working to implement company-wide, as exemplified by the company’s recent transitions in other markets.
• Per usual, Disney regularly evaluates their approach to the physical media market as the home entertainment business and industry at large continue to rapidly evolve alongside consumer behavior.
• This agreement will allow Disney to continue offering its films and TV shows via physical media retailers and distributors, and most importantly to disc consumers more efficiently.
• The transition for Disney handing over its physical media operations to Sony has recently commenced and will probably take several month to complete.
• The first Disney title that will be managed by Sony on physical media will be The First Omen (20th Century Studios), which arrives in theaters on 4/5/24 (digital and physical street dates are TBD will be announced in the coming months).

"....to consumers through retailers and distributors in the U.S. and Canada"

I better save-up my postage pennies. They will equal or exceed the cost of each disc I want.

 

[atrocity]

SONY has a stellar reputation for releasing state of the art BD~V and UHD4K discs

They also have an excremental reputation for raping the end credits on their physical discs, apparently because they want to replicate the streaming "experience."

Maybe Di$ney won't allow that, though.

 

[Sal1950]

I just wish we would get some of those Godzilla 4ks over here with subtitles ... other than hai and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggh Gojira I need the subtitles.

What, You don't speak lizard-ese?