I was referring specifically to Grateful Dead Albums but thanks anywayHundreds! Check out this thread:
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Yes! Don’t get this for surround… get it for the magnificent performances on the 1980 disc. Wonderful!Since this thread has already wandered a bit afield, I'm gonna veer off on another tangent and throw in a mention of a Van Morrison double DVD that I recently bought (used & cheap) that I think is really good: Live At Montreux, which features live videos of Jazz Festival performances in 1980 and 1974. I couldn't find much mention of this anywhere else on QQ, so I'm wedging it in here.
The DTS 5.1 is the typical audience & ambience in the rears, nothing remarkable there, and the video quality isn't stellar, especially for the 1974 disc. But the music! If you enjoy classic-era Van, I think you would really appreciate this. The 1974 show is with a pickup band he'd never played with before, playing mostly unreleased songs that the audience must have been largely unfamiliar with, and his voice is a little worn, but it's pretty transcendent, despite (or maybe, because of). The 1980 show is with a large, accomplished, apparently well-rehearsed band and the set features a lot of his well-known 70s songs, and it's a solid and very enjoyable presentation.
If you're a VM fan and can find this used for $10 or so, I'd say it's well worth the small investment.
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I couldn't say for sure unless I had the ADM master to look at through the Dolby Renderer, but I think he used to keep the lead vocals in the bed and now instead uses a mono object positioned somewhere between the center speaker and sides. I recently discovered that - in ProTools at least - if you have an object panned exactly 68% between the front and side speakers, it appears fully isolated in the wides in a 9.1.x configuration.The first Steven Wilson Atmos mixes did use the wides very scarce, if at all. I attributed this to the fact that his study has only 7.1.4 monitor speakers, as far as I can see in its pictures. And perhaps he didn't could test how much improves the listening with wides? But recently, more and more S. Wilson Atmos mixes do use the Wides.
Yes, I read about the 68º in your article in IAA. Then, should this be the recommendation to locate the wide speakers instead of at an azimuth angle at the middle of a straight line between the front and the side, like I read somewhere? I will check in my room where exactly do I have my wides.I couldn't say for sure unless I had the ADM master to look at through the Dolby Renderer, but I think he used to keep the lead vocals in the bed and now instead uses a mono object positioned somewhere between the center speaker and sides. I recently discovered that - in ProTools at least - if you have an object panned exactly 68% between the front and side speakers, it appears fully isolated in the wides in a 9.1.x configuration.
In 7.1.4, the lead vocal throughout "Into The Mystic" sounds like it's at almost equal level in the center & sides. It gives a really great 'in your head' effect while also anchored toward the front soundstage.
For the sound to appear only in the center and not the fronts, all you have to do is turn the 'center percentage' control on the surround panner all the way up.What I like is that the vocals do not appear at all at the fronts. I increased the master volume and put my ear together to the front, and no voice was heard. The voice appears only in the center and in the wides, with ‘high’ volume, and in the sides with a little lower volume.
That would mean an object exactly at 68º (for not leak sound to the front) and other sound vocals at the bed Center and the sides (or objects located in the bed locations). Or perhaps just a lateral object at more than 68º that is spread between the wide and the side.