BluRay Music Video Poll Waters, Roger - US + THEM [Blu-Ray]

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Rate the BD of Roger Waters - US + THEM

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Neil Palfreyman

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Gave this a first spin last night (Blu Ray, standard 5.1 mix) and thoroughly enjoyed it. The surround quality is quite incredible, and the surround is active enough to add to the overall experience and in quite a lot of places is very active.

Video quality is, as you would expect, superb and the audience shots were no big deal imho. I didn't see the live show, so the setlist was a surprise to me. It's very well constructed to deal with the theme of the show, and works really well.

Haven't voted yet, but it's at the very, very least a nine.
 

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I did see this tour and enjoyed it thoroughly and this disc is a great release. The sound quality and surround mix for a live album are top notch. A lot of the performance comes off sounding as more a studio recording as it doesn't have a real live sound and the audience is barely there for much of it and that's fine by me. And the two songs from Animals are the highlight and worth the cost alone for me. The only knock from me was I don't understand why they didn't just put all the songs in the regular program instead of having them as additional material.

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I saw the tour as well (2x) My only complaint with this release (and the tour itself) is I didn't care for the performance of the guy who sang Gilmores parts. I've heard tribute bands with better lead singers.
I gave it a 9.
 

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I saw the tour as well (2x) My only complaint with this release (and the tour itself) is I didn't care for the performance of the guy who sang Gilmores parts. I've heard tribute bands with better lead singers.
I gave it a 9.
I agree with you on this,Gilmore is much better singer.
 

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Short take: not completely taken.

OK, finally got to this last night. I am a Roger Waters fan and enjoyed the tour, so I was very much looking forward to this. I must say my reaction to the presentation is mixed.

On the plus side, the audio is very clean and clear. It is not possible to fault the audio fidelity. Also, the video is well shot and looks beautiful. And in contrast to his Total Re-Wall video, this one does not cut away from the live event to annoying asides and vignettes that have nothing to do with the concert.

On the down side, I find the mix to be nearly devoid of surround interest. For those who commented that the mix (5.1 only for me) had some interest, would you please post specific examples so I can go back and hear what you are referring to. There can't be that many, as far as I can tell. So if the mix counts for anything, for me so far that aspect is a zero.

Finally, I found the audience to be so low in the mix that this sounds like a studio recording with an audience "noise floor." While I personally dislike audience and ambience only in the rears, most live recordings (including stereo) will at least swell the level of the audience between musical selections or at critical moments of audience response. Here there is just kind of a low level hum of the crowd. I found the effect of this choice to leave the music feeling a little antiseptic. They had video shots of people feeling something, but we hear very little of their response.

I will wait to cast a vote, pending some identified use of surrounds. I isolated them at points and found them wanting. Overall I found it to be a decent to very good document of the proceedings, but stripped of some of the emotional content of a concert. Perhaps the perfect metaphor for a Covid Concert! Like TV comedian without an audience, or a sporting event without a crowd of fans. Does anybody else in here, feel the way I do?
 
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The surround mix doesn't bring much in the rears except some special effects if I can remember, will give it a spin this weekend. It's not a discrete mix for sure
 

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On the down side, I find the mix to be nearly devoid of surround interest. For those who commented that the mix (5.1 only for me) had some interest, would you please post specific examples so I can go back and hear what you are referring to. There can't be that many, as far as I can tell. So if the mix counts for anything, for me so far that aspect is a zero.

Finally, I found the audience to be so low in the mix that this sounds like a studio recording with an audience "noise floor." While I personally dislike audience and ambience only in the rears, most live recordings (including stereo) will at least swell the level of the audience between musical selections or at critical moments of audience response. Here there is just kind of a low level hum of the crowd. I found the effect of this choice to leave the music feeling a little antiseptic. They had video shots of people feeling something, but we hear very little of their response.

I will wait to cast a vote, pending some identified use of surrounds. I isolated them at points and found them wanting. Overall I found it to be a decent to very good document of the proceedings, but stripped of some of the emotional content of a concert. Perhaps the perfect metaphor for a Covid Concert! Like TV comedian without an audience, or a sporting event without a crowd of fans. Does anybody else in here, feel the way I do?
I had a similar reaction - this is carried over from my post in the other thread on this release - see my comments on specific use of surrounds:
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A few impressions of the blu-ray (I only can play in 5.1 so I can't comment on the Atmos mix):

1. The sound mix was really good in some respects, and seemed to be lacking in others, creating an odd disjointed feeling for me. For example, the surround effects from the Dark Side tracks were well-placed and at good volume (voices, cash registers, alarm clocks, etc.). I feel like that was all done in the mix post-production - it didn't sound "live" to me but it did sound good nonetheless. The other effects (explosions, etc. of which there were many, synched with the images shown on-screen) definitely had low-end punch - a real good subwoofer workout. However, the sound of the band playing their instruments just seemed lacking punch and seemed to be mixed in at too low a volume. This is where that disjointed feeling came in for me. I wanted to turn the volume way up during the songs but then dial it back during the effects.
 

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The sound mix was really good in some respects, and seemed to be lacking in others, creating an odd disjointed feeling for me. For example, the surround effects from the Dark Side tracks were well-placed and at good volume (voices, cash registers, alarm clocks, etc.). I feel like that was all done in the mix post-production - it didn't sound "live" to me but it did sound good nonetheless. The other effects (explosions, etc. of which there were many, synched with the images shown on-screen) definitely had low-end punch - a real good subwoofer workout. However, the sound of the band playing their instruments just seemed lacking punch and seemed to be mixed in at too low a volume. This is where that disjointed feeling came in for me. I wanted to turn the volume way up during the songs but then dial it back during the effects.
seems like a lot of action movie presentations doesn't it...
 
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