1K Club - QQ Shooting Star
- Mar 1, 2003
....and I would certainly agree with you on that. There's plenty of differences of opinion in the surround world, and this is one of them. I've stopped arguing points like these, though, allowed people to just like what they like, and walk the streets with a feeling of superiority about myself.It sounds like an appropriate philosophy for mixing for film (saving surprises for the rears). But for strictly music, I much prefer an all-enveloping sound.
The main problem is that these are usually done by engineers with little or no musical background; certainly not the background necessary to make musical sense of the material they are recording. This is a huge problem with regard to "classical" music. What is needed is the sure hand of an experienced musician who knows the acoustics of the concert hall, stadium, church, whatever venue whose sound you wish to re-create.But used VERY sparingly...these effects can open up your mix and give it a little life.
Yes, I get your point, great idea! I don't see why we can't use info from other boards with links and try to get info from other places and raise the awareness of Multi-Channel at other message boards. We might meet some other old Quad folks or other's who mix regularly into surround.Or you could just save time, energy and duplication and all go run over here to have all your questions answered: http://homerecording.com/bbs/index.php? or the Steve Hoffman forums http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2.
Plenty of 4.0 and 5.1 cross-thread-heads over there.
If we don't educate the boys on the other related forums (and I do mean ``boys'' as the members there tend to be boys generally in their 20's and 30's compared to the membership here being men in their 40's, 50's and 60's,) then as time goes by we really WILL be the only ones that care. Then as we die off, so will the interest, and boys 2 or 3 generations out won't even know or care what a CD or a .wav file is, nevermind a multichannel LP, tape or disc.
quite interesting. i should try it to see if that technic works.The fun way is:
After mixing your 5.1 channels, go into your music editing program, choose Phase Adjust and then flop the rear two channels not only out of phase to each other 180 degrees but at the same time, 90 degrees out of phase left and right compared to the front channels.
Mix all that back to stereo, and then if you have to, mix in a little extra front-center to the now-composite mix