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Ranasakawa

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I like my music up loud but usually don't because of 'the other people' factors, music sounds better at a louder volume usually to me because of better bass and the frequencies are better represented which also contributes better to me emotionally, however todays CD re-mastering to the point of distortion has taken away a lot of my listening pleasure with most recent CDs. My car speakers are well worn and need replacing ;)
 

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RCA's Dynagroove Loudness Compensation is based upon your listening at 20dB below live performance levels.


I guess they wanted the music to seem louder than it was (I have 1 or 2 old Dynagroove LPs [inherited]), I'll have to try them out and see if they actually seem louder than they are.


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And, that reminds me of an article I read many years ago in some science magazine. At the dawn of super loud rock, it was assumed that all the purveyors of said rock would suffer major hearing loss. There were/are undoubtedly cases like that but there hasn't been wholesale devastation as was predicted.

The article author proposed that it all has to do with how agreeable a loud sound is to the listener as to whether his/her receptors in the ear are damaged or not. Listening to loud music is NOT the same as, say, listening to a jackhammer or a jet engine at close range. Irritating noises cause muscles around the receptors to contract, damaging tissues. Agreeable or pleasurable sounds do not cause that.

I agree.

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I attended 100+ rock concerts in my teens and twenties and my hearing is just fine now, several decades later on. Most concerts, general admission and I always found my way to worst case for hearing loss, front and center stage, within 10s of yards of the speaker stacks. One vivid recollect, I was right of stage during a White Lion warm up gig, so there temp set up speaker stack was on stage at edge. I was standing 15-20 feet direct in front of it. I could feel pain in my right ear, so I put a Lincoln Penney in my ear hole and that fix my problem. I had completely forgotten about all the times I was told " you are going to go deaf from rock concerts" .
 

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My worst was a Queen concert in 1976. They were supposed to play in the arena of the St. Paul Civic Center but there was a conflict in scheduling and there was a hockey game that night so Queen played in the old, smaller auditorium.

Nobody knew until getting to the arena doors and a guy was sending everybody to the auditorium. I practically carried my wife over there, telling her we had to hurry to get good seats as they weren't reserved. We got seats on the main floor about 5 rows back and toward the left side, right in front of the left PA stacks (and right in front of Freddie's piano). It was painful by the end of the concert and my ears rang for two weeks. I was sure my ears were permanently damaged but they completely recovered.

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Ive just been listening to the kraftwerk katalog blu ray at what felt like a resonably loud, but certainly not blasting level. To assuage some lockdown boredom I set up an spl meter and over 15 minutes measured an average of 93.5dbA with a peak of 101.7dbA.

This felt like an appropriate level for the music. Obviously, I wouldnt want to play moondance or nick drake etc at that sort of level, theyd be around 20db lower. Similarly, if I played ace of spades it would probably gain an extra few db. Surely the purpose of our hobby is to be able to reproduce an aproximation of an exterior (or artificial) environment within the comfort of our own homes.

Ive spent a lot of time around loud music. I ran a dance soundsystem during the early 2000s, heard most of the uk heavyweight dance and roots systems, played bass for a loud rock band, saw motorhead a load of times and was at the 1988 iron maiden donnington gig (which I think still holds the record for the largest soundsystem). None of this ever seemed too loud - the things that seemed too loud were the ones that were at an inappropriate volume for the material or were played back through distorted or poor quality systems.

I used to carry earplugs with me and if the sound was objectionable (usually for the reasons above rather than sheer spl) I wore them. I wore hearing protection when using power tools and never cranked headphones. My hearing is definitely not 100% and, when last tested about 3 years ago, topped out at about 15k, which seemed reasonable for someone pushing 50 who'd spent a lot of time making a racket. Annoyingly, having avoided it previously, I now get occasional bouts of tinnitus in one ear after my daughter ruptured my eardrum while playing a game last spring. Thankfully its infrequent and doesnt seem to be aggravated by loud noises but the 6 weeks it took to heal, when I suffered vertigo every time I sat down to listen to music, was bloody miserable.
 

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Ever since I moved to Maggies a few years ago, I find that I listen to music at lower levels because there is bass at lower levels. I think that's because the way the very large planar couples to the room, effectively moving air for that "maggie bass". Not very deep not ever very loud, but very fast and there even at low volume levels.

With purely dynamic speakers, it feels like you need to crank it up a bit to hear any bass.

Oh, at just over 60 my hearing goes up to 15Khz, with a benign notch in my right ear at around 400Hz.... dang Boeing Cabin Subsystem's overhead transformers...
 

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Speaking of loud, I just got done playing the "Nuggets from Nuggets" CD after having not for a long time.

Man, it is incredible. I was at just the right age when all that music was released and a person can forget how really good that stuff was/is until you hear it again.

And, the notes written by Greg Shaw inside are right on the money as to what went on then, unlike many other supposed "accurate accounts".

Doug
 
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