As I understand Atmos, the ceiling speakers don’t need to acoustically match the others in the system. At least according to a handful of gurus on the old “Home Theater Geeks” webcasts.I certainly surmised that with the PUSH for DOLBY SURROUND, DTS and DD 5.1 for home video/theater applications, surround would've had a more profound impact on Joe Q Public but even that fizzled out followed by DTS Entertainment's push for MUSIC ONLY surround releases [LOSSY] with 4.0. 5.1 even 6.1 releases immediately followed by the Major record label's big announcement for LOSSLESS MLP DVD~A 5.1 and Sony's push for SACD [Stereo and Multichannel]. ALL unfortunately, had minimal impact except for that niche market which always embraced surround as a viable format.
ATMOS with its requirements for new Receivers and 4 MORE overhead speakers presented a new challenge. And seriously folks, and I'm NOT being cheeky, how many who claim to be ATMOS ready have four properly placed overhead speakers which in any way match their already extant front, rears and center channels?????? The majority of listeners who claim they're ATMOS ready rely on sound bars and Amazon's 'toy' ATMOS plastic thingamajigs which in no conceivable way meet the ATMOS challenge.
And Clearmountain isn't alone in his assessment that ATMOS may be here today ... gone tomorrow because in an interview some years ago Elliot Scheiner said that 5.1 [even 4.0] was adequate for surround immersion when 7.1 became the new kid on the block!
I don't have ATMOS nor do I stream but from what I've read the ATMOS remixes are lossy, are basically 'rentals' and most will never be released, AFAIK, on LOSSLESS physical discs [which would fold down nicely into 5.1] .
So, really, how committed are both the artists and the Major releasing companies to making ATMOS a viable format for ALL to enjoy, even in a 5.1 unfold?
I see ATMOS as a PUSH by both artists and record labels to sell MORE music, albeit in a new 'improved' format and commendable as it is, it's hardly likely to be any more successful than ALL those formats which came before to create a dent in an already minimalist niche market.
And to be totally honest, this listener is happier than a pig in sh*t when UK's Dutton Vocalion releases those old QUAD classics from the 70's in pristine remasterings on LOSSLESS SACD with vibrant phantom center channels ....... at near 70's prices as well!
And if the Beatles' latest REVOLVER box set is any indication .... even though a DOLBY ATMOS version exists ... why didn't they consider it important enough to include it .... most especially for the price point they're charging for the set!
Will ATMOS be here today ... gone tomorrow? ALL things considered ....... perhaps another remnant of SURROUND'S ingloriously rocky history is my guess!
I think that's right. May not be what Dolby thinks, but who cares? For my heights I'm just using some Polk monitors (just by looking roughly 11"x7")? Maybe not good enough for the purists with deeper pockets but seem to be working out for me.As I understand Atmos, the ceiling speakers don’t need to acoustically match the others in the system. At least according to a handful of gurus on the old “Home Theater Geeks” webcasts.
When building my room, I installed fout Yamaha ceiling speakers. As I recall, they were about $50 each from Best Buy, with several reviewers saying that they survived attic heat and worked well for Atmos. So far, I don’t have the electronics to decode or drive those speakers, so the wires are run to the amplifier location and shorted out. I don’t expect 40 Hz out of them when the time finally arrives that I can enjoy the next step in my A/V adventures, but I do hope for pleasant and interesting imaging. Time will tell.
Ouch! I won’t say that having those speakers in a house I was thinking about buying would be a deal breaker, but I wouldn’t expect serious high fidelity from them. That said, they look quite a bit like the speakers I installed for Atmos in my room. I’d give it a try, though. You might be surprised. And if the imaging sucks, you just have some sawing and patching to do in order to put speakers you already own where they belong.So looking at the speakers that are above the TV and 2 more on the opposite end facing downword can those be used for Atmos and I'm not sure what hardware I would need to listen to it.This stuff was already there when we bought the house.
So looking at the speakers that are above the TV and 2 more on the opposite end facing downword can those be used for Atmos and I'm not sure what hardware I would need to listen to it.This stuff was already there when we bought the house.
Ouch! I won’t say that having those speakers in a house I was thinking about buying would be a deal breaker, but I wouldn’t expect serious high fidelity from them. That said, they look quite a bit like the speakers I installed for Atmos in my room. I’d give it a try, though. You might be surprised. And if the imaging sucks, you just have some sawing and patching to do in order to put speakers you already own where they belong.
Agreed: see how they sound first; they might be fine. I installed four similar-looking speakers (well, speakers with similar looking grills) in my living room ceiling--Episode ES-350T-IC-8's. The owner of my local hi-fi store (we still have one!) recommended them over what he called "standard contractor speakers," as they weren't much more expensive (I forget; maybe ~$150 each?). They sound great: full range, good dispersion, and the tweeters can be angled if necessary.Seeing these in friends & relatives newer homes "family rooms."
Intended for enhanced TV watching with inexpensive AVR.
And of course, no ugly floor speakers ruining the decor.
Inexpensive for the builder to slap in as the drywall is being installed.
You might take time connect them to your receiver and see how they sound.
As far as hardware, obviously you'd need an Atmos-capable AVR or cobble something together to use them as heights.
Not a huge head start expense-wise, but certainly in Wife Acceptance Factor & easy hook-up.
A few years ago a friend of my wife's, widowed, retired grandma asked me to come look at hers.
Four ceiling speakers in the corners, TV, AVR, center dialog soundbar & sub in a shelf unit.
Just didn't work right, blamed the grandkids for messing with the remotes, could I help?
Fortunately she had the AVR owners manual and calibration mic.
Turned out the room had been rotated 90 degrees from the original install, speaker wiring labels no longer applied.
Got it sounding fine for casual easy listening & TV.
Don't know what you've heard but I find Atmos equally, if not more important for music as movies. I listen to a LOT more music than watch movies and Atmos encoded music, both new and old, is exploding on the market.Atmos is fine if you have a room that it will work in. I don't. 5.1 works well enough for me. The Atmos systems I've heard didn't really impress me. Maybe it was the music, or the mix, but came across to me as more for movies than music.
I'm glad to hear they've survived. I have half dozen of Auro encoded blurays and even with my Atmos config speakers the sound quality on them is outstanding. Also the upmixer side does great with non-immersive coded sources..
True, but it makes us happy too.As long as the music industry has new ideas of new formats in the future they will let the old formats die and present a new one. So many of us will buy the same music again and again and the industry is happy.
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