Well I got Free Hand in the mail today (In'terview should be with me tomorrow) and I think the surround mix has been botched at some point. I think the front and rear channels have been reversed on one side, so lead vocals/bass guitar/drums come from the front left and rear right. I swapped the cables on my player so that this was rectified and everything sounds way more cohesive - I will do some more listening to this and maybe rip it to my hard drive at some point to verify. Perhaps someone else with this disc could let me know if they're having the same issues.
The good news is the mix is in excellent fidelity and very very active. Exactly what you'd want from a circa 1975 quad mix!
Now that these discs have hit the streets can anyone tell us if they are also in 2 channel and if so at what resolution
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I don't think I've seen it spelled out yet....but I take it that these are not DVD-A, but 96/24 DTS DVD-V discs? That will not stop me from acquiring them, of course. I only own the somewhat muddled mix of the King Biscuit CD- NY Academy of Music performance, but I've heard them over the years on the occasional radio cut. I'll see if my local guy can order these today. John
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Yes - DTS DVDs.
I went with Amazon.com (March date) for Free Hand and will probably go for Interview later. Wish it was The Power And The Glory, oh well.
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Thanks Tim, my local shop says they'll be available from their distributor next Tuesday. John
Well I got In'terview today and the channel assignment on this one is correct, no front left/rear right vocal splits. I think I actually like this one more than Free Hand, although most reviewers seem to disagree. The Mix is again very adventurous and the music is pretty crazy - it's hard to imagine a time when music like this had a mass audience!
One small niggle with the mastering is that the rears seem to be too low - there are a couple of solos that ping-pong from front to back and noticably lose power when they are in the back speakers. I will have to get this one in to my DAW as well and see if the waveforms confirm what my ears are hearing.
4 channels = 12 times as many ways to get it wrong. Still pretty pathetic. Mine should show up any day now, but my anticipation is mellowed out by this news.
I don't want to take this thread off topic, but could somebody briefly explain how you created a disk with the channels swapped? What software do you use?
1. Convert the DTS to WAV
2. Create mono WAV files
3. Merge the mono WAV files (with channels swapped)
You can then author a disc from the wav files - I used Audiomiuxer to create a Blu-ray disc...
And I agree with the good news part, a lost gem this quad mix. My favorite GG as well.
So is this RF to RS switch an error or a deliberate mix?
I believe its an error....
I don't believe there's any issue with the channel placement on Free Hand. Yes, there are some unusual aspects to the mix but, to me, it sounds like the boys were having fun and experimenting with the 4 channels. Even though it doesn't often present the soundstage found in many modern surround mixes (band & lead vocals front, auxiliary vocals & instruments rear) there's plenty to lead me to believe it's correct. For instance Kerry's overlapping vocals during the middle part of On Reflection alternate between rears and fronts and the tambourine in Taybont is discretely placed in rears. The mix on the opening track is a bit wonky but the overall balance of the disc seems right to my ears.
Someone earlier in this thread had speculated that the first One Way release of the album might be the quad folded down and I think you're right! The quad mix contains the extra percussion in On Reflection as well as Derek singing one of Kerry's lines in Time To Kill. Those were two of the most obvious discrepancies I remember from the One Way release.