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    Please post your thoughts and comments on this 2014 DVD-A release from Robert Reed, "Sanctuary"!
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    My only complaint is that I have seen the cover. Problems uploading, but Mannheim Steamroller Meets the Mouse.

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    For those that don't know; I'll be up-front and state from the off that I play tested the surround version of this for Rob. That said, other than being a fan (initially of Magenta) I have no vested interest and always try to be impartial in my reviews.

    First thing to tackle is the material. It's a "heart-on-sleeve", "in-your-face" homage to the early Mike Oldfield albums - think Tubular Bells and Hergest Ridge and you'll be right there, in both sound and style. Rob's been very up-front about this and anyone who knows him will know that he's a big fan of, and hugely influenced by Mike and it's long been a dream of his to make a similar style album. This is that album. The sounds and instrumentation used are full-on re-creations of the sounds/same instruments Mike used and the structure, feel and progressions are also very similar. So is it a "rip-off?" I know a few people who claim that it is, but I think that's taking an undeserved cheap shot. The actual music, melodies, recording and especially the surround mix are all very "Rob" and once you get beyond the initial (and inevitable) impact that it's all very familiar, you'll find that it easily stands on it's own and, imho, probably develops and evolves in a much more mature way than Mikes early albums did. The two, roughly 20 minute parts are both very beautiful, emotional and evocative journeys through a familiar musical landscape.

    Okay, so the surround mix. Put simply; it's sublime. Rob tells me it was written for surround and that really, really shows. It goes without saying that it's fully discrete, but the placement of the instrumentation and effects, the movement of themes and instruments around the channels and use of the surround channels to accentuate the musical development is exemplary. Reference quality (which is also the phrase Simon Heyworth used when he first heard the mix.) I have hundreds of surround albums and this is easily in the top 10, quite probably top 5. It's that good. Rob has a pedigree of exceptional surround mixing: Magenta's "Metamorphosis", "Seven", "Chameleon", "The Twenty Seven Club" and Kompendium "Beneath the Waves." This is easily his best yet, taking the crown from "The Twenty Seven Club."

    I believe that the authoring was done by Neil Wilkes and is to his usual high standard. It's an absolute snip at 11 for CD/DVD dual disc version and the formats on the DVD are 24/96 MLP 5.1, 24/48 DTs 5.21 and 24/96 stereo

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    This is a really nice album, and the 5.1 PCM makes it sound fantastic. The mix is good, you really hear the placement of the instruments, and the mix works nicely in tandem with the music.

    It is a very good homage to Mike Oldfield, but it is very definitely Rob Reed, who has been heavily influenced by Tubular Bells/Hergest Ridge/Ommadawn era Mike Oldfield. You can hear Rob Reed's composition in the two pieces, played in the style of early Mike Oldfield. I really like it.

    In respect of it being very Tubular Bells like, I would say its comparable to the early Marillion versus Genesis arguments. Good influences are no bad thing.
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    First listen...I only have a couple of listens of Tubular Bells but this does strike me as a TB sequel...that said, my first impression has me shaking my head. Uh, like I want to go back to stereo about as much as I want to go back to walking on all fours Some of the passages are a stellar use of the surrounds

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    I can only agree with Neil, Duncan and PK, it is again a great album from Rob Reed. A nice tribute to one of his main influences. The mix is superb, so much going on and with each listen I hear new details, great stuff!

    And all of this for a very dedent price, no big box sets or anything, just the dvd and cd in an attractive sleeve.

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    For MO fans it is a must-buy. My only complain is that because of the obvious and unconcealed similarities the album title should have contained A Tribute to Mike Oldfield imho.
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    Btw, the average dynamic range (DR14) of the mch tracks and the promo videos are awesome .

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    I'd like to mention that the MLP 5.1 version play at a sample rate of 48 kHz here. I'm fine with that, but on the cover and in the menu it is unfortunately advertised as 96 kHz.
    The MLP stereo mix plays at 96 kHz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ge Someone View Post
    I'd like to mention that the MLP 5.1 version play at a sample rate of 48 kHz here. I'm fine with that, but on the cover and in the menu it is unfortunately advertised as 96 kHz.
    The MLP stereo mix plays at 96 kHz.
    No. MLP 5.1 is also 24/96.

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    I really want to love this but I only like it. Great job by Rob Reed - mix & fidelity a 10. As a Tubular Bells tribute, I suppose that it does the job, but to be honest I never loved that either - just liked it too. I hope that this will continue to grow on me and there are elements within the 2 parts that I find very satisfying musically - close but no cigar - but I look forward to more from Mr. Reed. A 9!

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    After much listening to other prime stuff in surround I finally got round to listening to this.

    Why did I wait ?

    While the album does pay great homage to Mike Oldfield (1974/5) its great. The surround is excellent (can Rob Mix some of Mikes Albums in the Future?)

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    The surround mix of Sanctuary is one of the best I've ever listened to and definitely fits the style of the music. Clarity and dynamic are oustanding and the sound field is very active and open. Sound: 10/10

    I was never such a big fan of Mike Oldfield, but the music here is very nice and especially some elements in the 2nd part are really great and have a lot of atmosphere. Furthermore I realized that it grows on me with every spin I give it. Mr. Oldfield might sit at home, listen to this and think that he wishes to be able to record songs like this again. Music: 8/10

    Overall Rating: 9/10

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    if I had not known that this is not Mike Oldfield, I would've bet he is. So it lacks a bit originality I'd say. On the other hand this is so much better than anything Mike put out in the last, say, 20 years. So it's an 8 for the music and 10 for the s(urr)ound. A 9 it is!

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    Just arrived so I'll post my comments about the disc later. Comes in a cardboard sleeve. I hate those. There is no way I'm going to keep any of my discs in container where I have to slide it in and out of cardboard. Just trying to grip the thing or shake it out is a hassle and potential cause of damage to the disc. You guys who make these things - please stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavelength View Post
    Just arrived so I'll post my comments about the disc later. Comes in a cardboard sleeve. I hate those. There is no way I'm going to keep any of my discs in container where I have to slide it in and out of cardboard. Just trying to grip the thing or shake it out is a hassle and potential cause of damage to the disc. You guys who make these things - please stop.
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    After a quick listen on youtube my order is in. $24 delivered to Aus.

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    First listen. Solid 5.1 mix and excellent fidelity. Instrumental music; borrows from Tubular Bells but more layered. Sit back, close your eyes, and relax. Highly recommend.

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    A 9 for me the sounds like Tubular Bells aspect doesn't bother me a bit because it is so well done and hey I loved TB. Good use of 5.1 and it's nice to have a good instrumental 5.1 piece to listen too. Nice
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    After a couple of more listens I am even more impressed. Shows how a surround mix can bring the music to life. And it's nice to have another well-done instrumental album in my collection. Note: it's not 100% instrumental as there is some choral music as well.

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    Listening to DVD-A of Sanctuary now...first time. Excellent audio qualities, with the mix being very discreet, which is fun. Crystal clear instrumentation...very nice. I think it's a 10, both on mix/audio and content. OK, but I like Mike Oldfield...so this is right up that alley. Love it.

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    I forgot that I didn't vote on this.
    Fidelity(10),Surround(10),Content(8) so over all a strong 9.
    Rob R. is a great talent for sure and his ear for surround and mixing is stellar, wish he could do some other bands mixes as well, he knows what he is doing.
    This sure does sound like it could have been a lost Mike Oldfield album. Well done.

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    Firstly, I want to be clear that what I am doing here is nit-picking. The music and mix are generally excellent, and in fact the mix is among those I most respect in hundreds of hours of listening. This release is mixed in the way I think all surround should be mixed. Very discrete, and very clear.

    Is this like Mike Oldfield? Yes. Stylistically there is quite alot which harkens back to Part One of Tubular Bells. There seems to be some question about whether this is somehow bothersome. It is clearly offered as more of a tribute than a plagerism, and since I enjoy early Oldfield I say "why not." He is clearly conscious of the influence: the bottom of the back of the package says "Plus.....Tubular Bells." So if you like early Mike Oldfield, I am guessing this will please you.

    One wonders if Oldfield has heard this and how he feels about it?

    The one thing that I do not prefer is the way he uses human voices as part of the melodic flow. Whereas Oldfield employs a brief humming section that I think fits well, Reed uses a "wordless choir," providing "Synergy vocals." This manifests as harmonized parts comprised of sung sounds such as "la, lay, lo" and other voicings. This is more akin to a blend I should like to call Tubulaanisqatsi. The use of voices is my least favorite part of the recording - not because I do not like human voice used in this way, but because I do not love the way they are used here.

    I am grateful that he did not attempt some variation of the master of ceremonies used in the Oldfield work. I have to wonder if he tried it.

    Having said all that, there is enough here that I do really like, and may indeed grow to love, that I will not let it put me off of multiple listens.

    So I am going to rate this as an 8, taking points off for the parts of the music I don't prefer and for the package, which as wavelength observes requires the user to slide the disc in and out in a way that could blemish the disc.
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    A good solid '9'.

    This might not be an exact ripoff of "Tubular Bells", but no doubt it certainly is VERY heavily influenced by the classic Mike Oldfield album.

    Starting with the recorders in the surrounds, this mix continues to build and build. Reed's solo electric guitars (which have a very similar tone to Oldfield's), timpani, and cymbal crashes also make for very effective surround sound moments within the first few minutes of the album.
    The synthesized vocals and choirs are also a nice touch.
    There's also some lovely Farfisa Organ on here!
    This is an incredibly discrete album that it's so hard to list all of the instruments that make their way in and out of the surround channels, but no doubt it is extremely well balanced and effective.
    This record proves that not only is Robert Reed an extremely talented composer, instrumentalist, and producer, but he knows how to do surround sound for sure!
    There are some tone colors that members will recognize from Reed's Kompendium album, but I think this is a much better and more rounded effort on his part.

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    I'm utterly charmed by this one. I could not imagine a more delightful homage to the music of Mike Oldfield. Every moment is a cleverly crafted labor of love. Wonderfully executed with rich, warm sound and one of the best surround mixes you are ever likely to hear. An enthusiastic 10 for me.

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