Do you know something we do not know yet, Jon?
No, not really. I have not heard one way or the other on these two. (Honestly)
Do you know something we do not know yet, Jon?
Let's see what these end up being:
"Shinin' On" by Grand Funk Railroad
Joe Cocker
Both were released as Quadraphonic 8-tracks back in the 70s, but after what happened with "Musicmagic" and "Tale Spinnin", something tells me these will just end up being stereo-only too...
Oh geez.![]()
After the critical comments here on QQ Forum about the lack of quality of the Quad mixes of these two albums, not surprising that Audio Fidelity found them more suitable for Stereo release on SACD vs. Stereo & Multichannel.
Yes, maybe.
Not maybe. It is a factor in deciding which path to follow.
What? Were there comments about the quality of Quad on these way before the final decision to go Stereo and not Multi-channel?
Yes.
Remember that these are Surround recordings from the 1970's. So there is a history of comments on these Quad recordings (and others) that date from the '70s to today.
It's a factor in deciding what albums are issued as Stereo SACDs and which are Multichannel SACDs.
I can't imagine these being in Quad for two reasons:
#1 - They can't find the A&M Quad Masters (if they even exist anymore)
#2 - Both of these albums have shitty Quad mixes.
Yes; Shitty. Joe Cocker is the stereo mix passed through some sort of passive matrix or simply has the rear channels compressed all to hell. Shinin' On is again, the stereo mix with drums subtracted from the rear. Un-Inventive, placid and boring.
The only Capitol titles worth a damn are "The Joker" (which, if you ask me, is TOO discrete) and maybe The Righteous Brothers Q8.
None of the Grand Funk ones are any good.
So, I hope they're stereo only so I don't have to buy two lack-luster Quad mixes I'll never play.
It makes sense to me that if the AF Surround SACD program has been scaled back to the point that titles like BS&T's Greatest Hits did not merit a surround release, then either of these titles should not even be considered for surround as their quad mixes are far inferior to the mix on the BS&T GH album.
If quad SACDs are to be "special", then let's hope that the titles chosen for release are really special. IMHO, these two titles may be valid stereo releases, but because of their questionable quad mixes, I believe it was a good decision NOT to add quad to these.
That being said, if quad was a non-issue with regards to what gets released, and the sales figures of any particular disc would not reflect poorly on any format decision, then I would be all for adding the quads to these.
Do you follow me? Or am I rambling again?![]()
Hahaha... my overly critical voice is heard? Oh, the power this Keyboard Crusader holds! lol@:
Honestly, it's probably a good thing these are stereo-only releases. To pay a premium for a lack-luster Quad mix would probably turn a lot of people off.
Save the Quad layer for the really eye-opening stuff.
Wrong thread I know, and feel free to move this comment, but anything more possibly coming down the pipe from the old RCA catalog?
More Guess Who? How about The Youngbloods? Hues Corporation? Jose Feliciano? All of these have great Quad mixes and many have probably not seen an SACD release nor even a stereo CD release in many years.
I'd be all for some Enoch Light or even anything from Japan. I've been listening to Hot Butter in the car the last couple days and if that could be found in a discrete source? That'd be awesome.
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