RE: Letter I thought you might get a kick out of reading it again. It was passionate, indeed, & seeing your name at the end was a pretty good surprise to me:
You should consider posting these to Internet Archive, or just through this website's old quad stuff section. It's part of history.
Great pic of Brian. Speaking of updating links Brian should do that himself. His about info lists
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bmoura/msacdnow.htm
as his home page.
Funny, I remember 4Quad, and Jay Frank, but I don't remember writing a scathing letter. Funny how things so seemingly important then matter little today. When I think back to that time, quad was pretty much dead, and how we all found each other I'll never remember. But there were some great people into it back then, including Gary Thilgen, Brian Moura, Mike Robin, Larry Clifton, Nick Perugini, Ron Brian, Jay of course, and a host of others I can't even remember. Larry did join QQ at the beginning but remains cloaked. His 'Quad Incorporated' was the definative reference for us old quaddies.
It would be a hoot if Jay stopped by and posted here at QQ. I'd be happy to apologize for the scathing letter. He really did a lot for quad, and then he moved into LaserDiscs as I recall.
I would absolutely agree that if Jay is still around he should be consulted. Maybe they are already posted and hosted somewhere and we just have not found them. One would think he would want his hard work preserved... Would never want to steal though.I would not mind hosting them here, but not without Jay's permission. It was his labor of love and to "steal" it would not be very cool, IMHO.
I remember Jon's "scathing letter" about Jay Frank's SQ Newsletters (4 Quad and later Evolution).
Jay Frank started an AV Business named after the newsletter (Evolution) with his Dad.
Evolution Audio and Video is still in business selling audio and home theater gear in Southern California.
https://www.eavht.com/Our-Staff
I would absolutely agree that if Jay is still around he should be consulted.
Funny how things from the past can come back as a surprise to either haunt or pleasantly surprise you. This post is certainly the latter. But first the back story.
Now it’s also unfair to a degree in comparing what a small group of people can accomplish putting out a newsletter & distributing via USPS. QQ is international in scope & every member is a contributor. Could Evolution better succeed today on the WWW? Nah. I don’t think so. Dave Wiest would have loved being part of this forum.
I had a thread several months ago about the brand x stuff and i called jay so i could get the exact story. He had given me a couple copies when we were doing demos at his home theater shop in thousand oaks for the Millennium. He told me he would check us out so he may be here, but i heard running is a more vibrant passion these days.Funny, I remember 4Quad, and Jay Frank, but I don't remember writing a scathing letter. Funny how things so seemingly important then matter little today. When I think back to that time, quad was pretty much dead, and how we all found each other I'll never remember. But there were some great people into it back then, including Gary Thilgen, Brian Moura, Mike Robin, Larry Clifton, Nick Perugini, Ron Brian, Jay of course, and a host of others I can't even remember. Larry did join QQ at the beginning but remains cloaked. His 'Quad Incorporated' was the definative reference for us old quaddies.
It would be a hoot if Jay stopped by and posted here at QQ. I'd be happy to apologize for the scathing letter. He really did a lot for quad, and then he moved into LaserDiscs as I recall.
And QQ Forum is a Fountain of Youth
'Cause You're NEVER TOO OLD TO ROCK 'N ROLL!
I honestly don't remember the model of the last Kenwood (or any of them now) only that retail was just under $1,000. Miltary audio store price was $555. It had a long CD4 demodulator that slid into the back on one side. It had modest power of (I think) about 45 w/ch RMS x 4. At the time I had some Altec speakers that were super efficient and lack of power only became evident to some extent when I bought the Infiniti 1001's.Thanks for the reply!
Sad story of parting with your quad goodies. Maybe we even had the same Kenqood quad receiver? Mine was the 9940. We are still living in a great age for surround music if not quad. But even then so many wonderful re-issues on SACD, etc. I don't know what kind of reciever you have now but if it has 5.1 analog inputs consider getting the Involve Surround Master V2. Even if if you don't have any quad recordings it is great for decoding stereo. That's the main purpose I'm getting it for.
I fondly remember 4Quad but came to it rather late, it was already called Evolution/4Quad. I believe that the addition or name change to Evolution was in recognition that Quad was dead/dying but surround was experiencing a rebirth (via video). No surprise that Jay entered the world of LaserDiscs. Similarly Larry Clifton renamed his publication MCS Review rather than Quad Quarterly. As Larry explained with the name change we are no longer "hunting the last buffalo".Wow. Not sure why I was so pissed. I do remember the part about the reels, as we had a member who lived in the midwest. I think his business was Four Reel to Reel Sound, or something like that. As I recall, he was a 4Quad member, and he advertised in 4Quad. When Jay started offering the same reels for sale, I thought it was a bit underhanded, as that member had a business selling reels and now he had to compete with the newsletter he paid to join and presumably advertise in, when the market for those reels was very small and mostly made up of folks who joined 4Quad. I had no idea if Four Reel to Reel Sound was a hobby or a real business, I just thought it was kind of unfair to undermine a member like that.
Oh well. Looking back I guess I shouldn't have cared. It really didn't do any good for anyone. Heck, that had to be over 30 years ago! Points to Jay for printing the thing!
It says Bob Hoffman, not Steve.I fondly remember 4Quad but came to it rather late, it was already called Evolution/4Quad. I believe that the addition or name change to Evolution was in recognition that Quad was dead/dying but surround was experiencing a rebirth (via video). No surprise that Jay entered the world of LaserDiscs. Similarly Larry Clifton renamed his publication MCS Review rather than Quad Quarterly. As Larry explained with the name change we are no longer "hunting the last buffalo".
I remember Four Reel to Reel Sound but don't think that I ever purchased from them. I used to get my reels from Barclay-Crocker (no not Betty Crocker). They used to produce their own audiophile stereo tapes (7 1/2 ips) as well, I only purchased the Quads that came from Stereotape.
I did purchase several LP's from Evolution/4Quad. Notably Brand X "Squared", Mike Oldfield "Boxed", Santana "Lotus". Also Pink Floyd "Wish You Were Here" that turned out to be a stereo copy.
I can't help but share a couple reviews of the S&IC from 4Quad one was written by Steve Hoffman, both were supplied to me by Audionics years ago along with their brochure. I remember an equally flattering review of the original Fosgate Terasound Tate decoder. I think that 4Quad were selling it as well.
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