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Rick's new album is to be made available in two formats, single CD and CD/DVD with a surround mix:
https://www.rickwakemansmusicemporium.com/
https://www.rickwakemansmusicemporium.com/
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Most probably DD 5.1 like his last album...The Red Planet!Another definite buy.
....doubt if it will be a 'true' DVD-Audio though!
The Red Planet never even came with a 5.1 mix even though both the original sold on Rick's Emporium and the later Madfish release advertised that it did. Just like the pathetic so-called Quad mix that was given to The Six Wifes Of Henry VIII the surround mix sounded really bad and it was only a simulated 5.1 Upmix or Psudio mix. I fear the same thing will happen with this new release though I shall buy it all the same as the new album does sound well interesting...Most probably DD 5.1 like his last album...The Red Planet!
Would be nice if they explored the 'royalty~free' lossless LPCM 5.1 option!
As long as they don't go with that new 7.1.4 Discreet system that uses DXD 352.8 kHz data rate. How many of us have AV's capable of that?Most probably DD 5.1 like his last album...The Red Planet!
Would be nice if they explored the 'royalty~free' lossless LPCM 5.1 option!
The Red Planet did come with a 5.1 mix. I have it, as many others in the forum. I think it was sent later to the people that purchased it via Rick's store. In my case, I easily got it from Amazon at the time.The Red Planet never even came with a 5.1 mix even though both the original sold on Rick's Emporium and the later Madfish release advertised that it did. Just like the pathetic so-called Quad mix that was given to The Six Wifes Of Henry VIII the surround mix sounded really bad and it was only a simulated 5.1 Upmix or Psudio mix. I fear the same thing will happen with this new release though I shall buy it all the same as the new album does sound well interesting...
Same here! I’ve enjoyed my copy!The Red Planet did come with a 5.1 mix. I have it, as many others in the forum. I think it was sent later to the people that purchased it via Rick's store. In my case, I easily got it from Amazon at the time.
My mate pre-ordered his copy from Rick's Emporium and also had to wait for the DVD to arrive and when it did there was no 5.1 mix on it or if there was it was he was very disappointed with it. When that album was first put up for pre-order on the Emporium the CD/DVD release stated that it had a 5.1 mix of the album I was tempted to get it for that reason however the extortionate price put me off. A week later I went back to the Emporium and noticed that the 5.1 had been removed from the CD/DVD release. I then checked on Rick's old website and he even stated on there that no 5.1 mix was done for the album.The Red Planet did come with a 5.1 mix. I have it, as many others in the forum. I think it was sent later to the people that purchased it via Rick's store. In my case, I easily got it from Amazon at the time.
According to my sources, The Red Planet was not up-mixed by Simon Heyworth and was done by Erik Jordan and assisted by Toby Wood. Regarding any up-mix personally for me it will never be the full shilling and when you are working with a stereo source you have no way of placing individual instruments in the rear channels for good effect. An up-mix is only really pot-luck where the instrumentation gets spread around the surround field and you could just as easily get the same result with a CD via using any of the Upmix facilities such as Dolby Prologic XX, Neo 6, 7-Channel Stereo and so on with your AV Reciever.iirc it turned out it was an upmix (apparently due to issues mixing during Lockdown) but imho a Simon Heyworth upmix can sometimes be better than some other engineer's mixes from multitracks!
as far as the Six Wives DE is concerned, that's a totally separate thing, with a whole set of issues (!) which has been discussed at QQ several times already. tbh i can't be bothered pouring over it again, its painful dredging it all up!
oh right, some sources differAccording to my sources, The Red Planet was not up-mixed by Simon Heyworth and was done by Erik Jordan and assisted by Toby Wood. Regarding any up-mix personally for me it will never be the full shilling and when you are working with a stereo source you have no way of placing individual instruments in the rear channels for good effect. An up-mix is only really pot-luck where the instrumentation gets spread around the surround field and you could just as easily get the same result with a CD via using any of the Upmix facilities such as Dolby Prologic XX, Neo 6, 7-Channel Stereo and so on with your AV Reciever.
The 5.1 up-mix of the Red Planet is very poor in my opinion, especially in relation to the hi-res stereo mix where you can hear much more detail. The up-mix would only get 5 out of 10 whereas the hi-res stereo mix easily gets 10 out of 10. The whole thing about the way the album was advertised is a complete farce and blatant false advertising was used to entice surround FREAKS! in the first place which sort of makes it a bit of a RIP-OFF!
At least that source was a bit more honest about it unlike the record company itself as you can see here :oh right, some sources differ
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there are good and bad upmixes, some do more than a PLII type synthesis routine, others are worthless.
would i rather an MCh mix from the multi's? of course and that was supposedly the original intention with The Red Planet 5.1 but Covid mucked it all up, as with so many things
I'd forgotten to order this as I was out of the country on a business trip when I posted, luckily the thread reminded me!Another definite buy.
....doubt if it will be a 'true' DVD-Audio though!
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