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The ONLY Puerto Rican with ANY Quad releases!!!..."El cieguito de Lares" ("the little blind boy from Lares")...brilliant guitarist!

Oh yes kap! For me he is a brilliant everything, I love his playing and I love his voice.. and his RCA 70's stuff is a.) largely beautiful and b.) sounds great imho! The only thing is, I wish his other CD-4 LPs had seen "domestic" release in the States, as they're Japanese Quad pressings only afaik, so far they seem hard to come by and pricey when you find them.. Quadraphonic dreamin' on su-uh-uch a winter's daaaaayyyy.. :eek:
 
Ah.. she can't afford to be such a diva now, the poor woman is bankrupt ....

Edit: I also note with interest, that she added an "e" to the end of her last name on this record.. unless its a huge typo on both the label and the sleeve art, which seems unlikely.. I wonder what's up with that?

Karma's a BITCH...and THAT is why she's BANKRUPT now..serves her well for not being a trouper with an audience that appreciated her...the venue is still the most "uppity" place in Puerto Rico and everybody was wearing their best and , obviously , to her , it was a "casino" gig...I have NEVER been to a gig where the performer does less than 90 minutes..MUCH LESS LESS THAN AN HOUR!!!!
 
Oh yes kap! For me he is a brilliant everything, I love his playing and I love his voice.. and his RCA 70's stuff is a.) largely beautiful and b.) sounds great imho! The only thing is, I wish his other CD-4 LPs had seen "domestic" release in the States, as they're Japanese Quad pressings only afaik, so far they seem hard to come by and pricey when you find them.. Quadraphonic dreamin' on su-uh-uch a winter's daaaaayyyy.. :eek:

The Japanese appreciate the real good stuff!!! ;)
 
Wow, you've got some good albums there Adam! The Doobies, Eagles, Seals & Crofts, Roberta Flack, Quincy Jones. My only CD4 is a near mint copy of Arlo Guthrie's "Last of the Brooklyn Cowboys".
 
Oh yes kap! For me he is a brilliant everything, I love his playing and I love his voice.. and his RCA 70's stuff is a.) largely beautiful and b.) sounds great imho! The only thing is, I wish his other CD-4 LPs had seen "domestic" release in the States, as they're Japanese Quad pressings only afaik, so far they seem hard to come by and pricey when you find them.. Quadraphonic dreamin' on su-uh-uch a winter's daaaaayyyy.. :eek:

Beware that with those RCA Japanese CD-4's (the early ones in the R4P series that have no US counterpart, released in 1972 and possibly even 1971) that almost all of them have at least one song per side removed. I'm assuming that they did this because of inner groove distortion impeding the performance of the CD-4 decoder, but the cutting technology must have got better by the time RCA in the US started releasing CD-4 records (the APD1-xxxx series) in 1973 because none of the APD1 records are missing any of the songs from the equivalent quad 8-tracks the way those R4P series records were.
 
Wow, you've got some good albums there Adam! The Doobies, Eagles, Seals & Crofts, Roberta Flack, Quincy Jones. My only CD4 is a near mint copy of Arlo Guthrie's "Last of the Brooklyn Cowboys".

Ah well.. they were all pretty cheap so wot the 'eck, in for a penny in for a pony.. great albums they may be but if they all turn out to be discrete dud discs, Duncan they will all only be good for gawping at! :eek:
On that score, I may need to call upon your transcription services of your minty copy of that Arlo Guthrie CD-4, if mine (formerly owned by a boy or girl named Chris!) ends up sounding like sandpaper central :D
(Ps. Got your JB Live LP t/fer btw, thank you.. had no time to try it thru the SM but I gave the iTunes DL a quick blast thru PLII Music and it did absolutely diddly squat in the rears - like most of the time really nothing! - so I fear the old rumours of it being a stealth SQ might be unfounded unless the iTunes is a different mix etc.. but promise will try it with the SM soon as poss.)
 
Beware that with those RCA Japanese CD-4's (the early ones in the R4P series that have no US counterpart, released in 1972 and possibly even 1971) that almost all of them have at least one song per side removed. I'm assuming that they did this because of inner groove distortion impeding the performance of the CD-4 decoder, but the cutting technology must have got better by the time RCA in the US started releasing CD-4 records (the APD1-xxxx series) in 1973 because none of the APD1 records are missing any of the songs from the equivalent quad 8-tracks the way those R4P series records were.

Oh. :yikes

Dear. :(

That I did not know! Now that is rather.. unfortunate.. and from what you say on the timeframe they were pressed in, Dave, slightly bizarre.

Ok, that settles it, I shall quit searching for anymore Feliciano CD-4's and wait til the final phase of my mid-life crisis; the Q8 year(s).

What other R4P's are there that have been similarly edited down, please? Are there many?
It'll make my shopping list mercifully the shorter and be very much appreciated! :upthumb
 
Oh. :yikes

Dear. :(

That I did not know! Now that is rather.. unfortunate.. and from what you say on the timeframe they were pressed in, Dave, slightly bizarre.

Ok, that settles it, I shall quit searching for anymore Feliciano CD-4's and wait til the final phase of my mid-life crisis; the Q8 year(s).

What other R4P's are there that have been similarly edited down, please? Are there many?
It'll make my shopping list mercifully the shorter and be very much appreciated! :upthumb

I don't have a full list, but the early R4P Japan series were created using the same quad mixes that produced the PQ8 series of RCA quad 8-tracks and it seems like every one of them has had some songs removed. So the general rule of thumb (for me anyway) is if the R4P release had an equivalent US release that was a PQ8 series Q8 tape, it probably has some songs removed. Releases that have a US equivalent that has an APD1 (CD-4 LP) or APT1 (Q8 tape) release most likely have the full tracklisting.

This isn't a complete list, but just a few of the ones I know where the R4P Japanese CD-4 omits songs from the full album (usually 1 per side, but sometimes 2)

Friends Of Distinction - Grazin'
Jose Feliciano - Feliciano!, Fireworks, (presumably Alive Alive-O! and 10 to 23 (retitled as 'Rain' in Japan) have omitted tracks as well)
The Guess Who - American Woman, Share The Land
Michael Nesmith - Magnetic South
Elvis Presley - As Recorded Live At Madison Square Garden
Buddy Rich - Rich In London

Best to request scans of the record label A & B sides from the seller if you're buying these R4P series of records so you can compare them to the full tracklist, because it's really the only way you can be sure you're getting the entire album.
 
I don't have a full list, but the early R4P Japan series were created using the same quad mixes that produced the PQ8 series of RCA quad 8-tracks and it seems like every one of them has had some songs removed. So the general rule of thumb (for me anyway) is if the R4P release had an equivalent US release that was a PQ8 series Q8 tape, it probably has some songs removed. Releases that have a US equivalent that has an APD1 (CD-4 LP) or APT1 (Q8 tape) release most likely have the full tracklisting.

This isn't a complete list, but just a few of the ones I know where the R4P Japanese CD-4 omits songs from the full album (usually 1 per side, but sometimes 2)

Friends Of Distinction - Grazin'
Jose Feliciano - Feliciano!, Fireworks, (presumably Alive Alive-O! and 10 to 23 (retitled as 'Rain' in Japan) have omitted tracks as well)
The Guess Who - American Woman, Share The Land
Michael Nesmith - Magnetic South
Elvis Presley - As Recorded Live At Madison Square Garden
Buddy Rich - Rich In London

Best to request scans of the record label A & B sides from the seller if you're buying these R4P series of records so you can compare them to the full tracklist, because it's really the only way you can be sure you're getting the entire album.

Thanks for all the wonderful detail, Diamond Dave (even if the end result is a bit disappointing! more CD-4 records to cross off the list.. we're doing well..!) wouldn't it be wonderful if a label were able (ha that rhymed!) to get all Feliciano's Quads out (Dutton V on SACD maybe? that rhymed too.. I'm a poet and didn't know it! bah..) err.. what point was I making? Oh yeah, sod the CD-4's and 8 tracks, lets hope some trooper gets them out in spanky new SACDs or DVD-A's (that are really DVD-V but you know how it is, some people can't tell their DVD-Ass from their DVD-Elbow :D )
 
Yeah it certainly would be nice, Feliciano certainly seems up D-V's street, so to speak. Hopefully their next batch of SACD's will include some gems from the RCA PQ8 series, of which there are plenty I think, between Feliciano, Buddy Rich, Hugo Montenegro, Henry Mancini, etc.

This is my latest CD-4 - McCoy Tyner 'Enlightenment, Vol. 2' (CD4W-7071). The stereo version was originally a double LP but for some reason in Japan they decided to sell them seperately as Vol. 1 and Vol. 2...I'm still on the lookout for a copy of Vol. 1 if anyone has one that they want to part with.

This is from the same JVC Japan CD4W series that produced all the Motown quads, and the Stylistics and Van McCoy ones as well. This McCoy Tyner release seems particularly difficult to find (at least for me anyway) even compared to some of the other Motown quads in this same series. Maybe it's because Tyner was a bit less of a mainstream artist than Marvin Gaye or Diana Ross or The Jacksons. For whatever reason, this quad mix was never released in the US (even though Milestone released another Tyner album from 1973 (Song Of The New World) on both CD-4 and Q8 in the US) making this Japanese CD-4 the only place to get it.

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Yeah it certainly would be nice, Feliciano certainly seems up D-V's street, so to speak. Hopefully their next batch of SACD's will include some gems from the RCA PQ8 series, of which there are plenty I think, between Feliciano, Buddy Rich, Hugo Montenegro, Henry Mancini, etc.

This is my latest CD-4 - McCoy Tyner 'Enlightenment, Vol. 2' (CD4W-7071). The stereo version was originally a double LP but for some reason in Japan they decided to sell them seperately as Vol. 1 and Vol. 2...I'm still on the lookout for a copy of Vol. 1 if anyone has one that they want to part with.

This is from the same JVC Japan CD4W series that produced all the Motown quads, and the Stylistics and Van McCoy ones as well. This McCoy Tyner release seems particularly difficult to find (at least for me anyway) even compared to some of the other Motown quads in this same series. Maybe it's because Tyner was a bit less of a mainstream artist than Marvin Gaye or Diana Ross or The Jacksons. For whatever reason, this quad mix was never released in the US (even though Milestone released another Tyner album from 1973 (Song Of The New World) on both CD-4 and Q8 in the US) making this Japanese CD-4 the only place to get it.

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Ooh.. mean green CD-4.. the real McCoy! :eek: (think i got an SACD of McCoy Tyner somewhere? Telarc maybe?)
I will keep my eyes peeled for Vol.1 of this for you oh steely one! :upthumb

ooh and I just noticed Alphonze (sic.. its an "S" not a "Z", no?) Mouzon is playing on your latest CD-4 acquisition! ...maybe one day someone will get his Mind Transplant 5.1 out!

Fingers crossed re: DV.. that is if they do anymore Surround SACDs, which I certainly hope so..!! :D

Oh, Ps. Whats the Hues Corporation Quads like? Nice sound & mixes?
 
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