https://spectrum.ieee.org/two-speakers-are-better-than-51
Some older info (as usual, I found this looking for something else).
Kirk Bayne
Some older info (as usual, I found this looking for something else).
Kirk Bayne
Settled for Aqualung in maximum quad 4.1.Which is why I prefer quad
The author thinks stereo was around in the 1920s and 1930s????https://spectrum.ieee.org/two-speakers-are-better-than-51
Some older info (as usual, I found this looking for something else).
Kirk Bayne
Skill and calibration issue and they have the surround vs stereo thing literally backwards. We have an ambiguous area to the sides in our frequency and delay perception for spacial awareness for perceiving front vs back. You have to turn your head to the sides slightly here and there to resolve it. (That's what some people call "cogging". When your perception was backwards in the moment and then finally locks in. FYI, more accomplished mixes might lock position in better with reflection work and avoid this. Or avoid masking that leads to ambiguous results.) This experience can only be achieved with an actual surround sound speaker array. Binaural is very limited! Surround sound is all about an experience where there's more than you can easily take in at any given moment!Anybody who has the space in their room and places their rears at 90 degrees needs a little correction for their behavior!
To me, the ideal 5.1 placement is quad angles + center. Basically a box with an extra speaker up front. Not any of the circular ITU garbage. But alas, ITU is what works best in a lot of rooms, including mine! I do make sure to keep my rears at 110.
I think this article is actually talking about cogging? I haven't noticed any cogging in my system really, so maybe whoever wrote the article has a skill issue on calibration?
Nothing wrong with placing the rears at 90°, that way they image much like headphones. I likely wouldn't listen to straight stereo that way but quad/surround is different. Still usually the rear speakers will be a bit behind, assuming a room with a couch and speakers up near the back wall, so they would be toed in a bit. Likewise it they are placed slightly forward I would toe them out.Anybody who has the space in their room and places their rears at 90 degrees needs a little correction for their behavior!
Also this author.:The author thinks stereo was around in the 1920s and 1930s????
Stereo appeared for Fantasia in 1941, and then first for consumers in 1952.
Before then, everything was mono.
Actually, Walt Disney invented a form of surround sound for Fantasia. The Theaters had to be fitted with speakers all around.Stereo appeared for Fantasia in 1941, and then first for consumers in 1952.
In our prior house with a fairly small living room I had to put the rears in my 5.1 directly left/right of the couch. It worked fine but required me to lower the rear levels more than they would normally be. Now in the new home with a much larger living room and 'proper' rear speakers behind the couch in a box with the fronts, I get noticeably better imaging in the surround field. Because they're mounted to the walls directly without mounts, none of my speakers are angled. But the way sound travels it's not super critical IMO, as long as the reflections are kept to a minimum and/or don't affect the sound reaching our ears.Nothing wrong with placing the rears at 90°, that way they image much like headphones. I likely wouldn't listen to straight stereo that way but quad/surround is different. Still usually the rear speakers will be a bit behind, assuming a room with a couch and speakers up near the back wall, so they would be toed in a bit. Likewise it they are placed slightly forward I would toe them out.
I still find it odd specifying speaker position by means of degrees, in the quad days it was never talked about in those terms, must be a Dolby thing.
Stereo was invented by Alan Blumlein whilst working for EMI. He made the first stereo disc and demonstration film in 1931 (which you can see on the EMI Archive website).The author thinks stereo was around in the 1920s and 1930s????
Stereo appeared for Fantasia in 1941, and then first for consumers in 1952.
Before then, everything was mono.
I love all the surround forms.Which is why I prefer quad
Cogging is most prevalent when the front and rear speakers are not closely matched.I think this article is actually talking about cogging? I haven't noticed any cogging in my system really, so maybe whoever wrote the article has a skill issue on calibration?
That's very close to the way my rears as set, only that they are a couple feet behind the listening chair, no couch here. I don't have a lot of choice in my room but played with their positioning and found having them pointed at the MLP the best.When the rear speakers are placed to the sides they should be pulled farther apart than the front speakers. This diagram from the Lafayette SQ-W manual illustrates the set up perfectly. It is the setup that I came to favour on my own only seeing this diagram in recent years. Almost at 90° but toed in a bit, and no mention of degree spacing just suggestions for distance which is just about right for most Living Rooms!
I was thinking about that recently. Would make a great candidate for an Atmos remix! I don't know what remains or what might be possible. I suspect the original was more about the ability to balance the mix for the front 3 channels in different theaters than a "surround" surround mix. But I think their early formats were technically 5.1, 7.1, and then 7.1.1.Actually, Walt Disney invented a form of surround sound for Fantasia. The Theaters had to be fitted with speakers all around.
"Fantasound" system to represent the "Flight of the Bumblebee" around the theater room.Actually, Walt Disney invented a form of surround sound for Fantasia. The Theaters had to be fitted with speakers all around.
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