Ok, Freddie, you got it.i'm already there!
yours Quadraphonically,
Freddie B.![]()
Ok, Freddie, you got it.i'm already there!
yours Quadraphonically,
Freddie B.![]()
i couldn't detect any difference between what was said to be SH's mastering & The Immortal one's work last time i drove myself bonkers with a Steely Dan shootout! ("with a gun.. with a gun..")Is there really any discernible difference between the Hoffman and Nichole masters? Everyone seems to only look for visual identifiers rather than what they can hear.
Sometimes excellence canāt be improved upon.
Yep.i couldn't detect any difference between what was said to be SH's mastering & The Immortal one's work last time i drove myself bonkers with a Steely Dan shootout! ("with a gun.. with a gun..")![]()
MarkieYou the man, we got to get you in the ie club.
Rickie, Ralphie and Markie.
What you guys think?
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@cbmmm3
I canāt really speak to that, itās just what Iāve read. All I can say is I have a Roger Nichols mastered Aja CD that sounds great.Is there really any discernible difference between the Hoffman and Nichole masters? Everyone seems to only look for visual identifiers rather than what they can hear.
Sometimes excellence canāt be improved upon.
If you read the October 2021 update to @JoshM's TBVO column on Aja (scroll all the way down), it seems he's no longer sure that what's been taken to be the Hoffman mastering is even Hoffman's.i couldn't detect any difference between what was said to be SH's mastering & The Immortal one's work last time i drove myself bonkers with a Steely Dan shootout! ("with a gun.. with a gun..")![]()
this is the best AP Steely Dan remaster i've heard so far, it's largely excellent and definitely worthwhile. the other two (CTE & PL) have issues i can't get beyond, particularly wrt speed of several tracks (which i know is more authentic to the original vinyl but tbh i'd rather have the tracks as originally recorded and so at the correct speed..Listening now to my new AP stereo SACD, Can't Buy A Thrill.
DSD64-DSF file. DR's are 10's, 11's, 12's.
My only other version I own is the HDTracks FLAC file 24bit/192Khz. DR's are the same.
The new SACD sounds much improved over the FLAC file.
The FLAC file albeit sounds good, but flat compared to the AP SACD.
I can't seem to find which way to go on these? I might purchase a couple $10.00 Nichols CD's for comparison? I'm A Fool Your Dirty Work
But right now this new SACD is great.
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If that "HDtracks" download was recent (2022), then it should be the same mastering as on the SACD, and should sound exactly the same.Listening now to my new AP stereo SACD, Can't Buy A Thrill.
DSD64-DSF file. DR's are 10's, 11's, 12's.
My only other version I own is the HDTracks FLAC file 24bit/192Khz. DR's are the same.
The new SACD sounds much improved over the FLAC file.
The FLAC file albeit sounds good, but flat compared to the AP SACD.
I can't seem to find which way to go on these? I might purchase a couple $10.00 Nichols CD's for comparison? I'm A Fool Your Dirty Work
But right now this new SACD is great.
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Why? Why is it "bad" if a mastering is available both on disc and as a download?That's to bad if it sounds exactly the same.
Listening now to my new AP stereo SACD, Can't Buy A Thrill.
DSD64-DSF file. DR's are 10's, 11's, 12's.
My only other version I own is the HDTracks FLAC file 24bit/192Khz. DR's are the same.
Just imo but disc sounds better then a download.
I am a big believer in Placebo, in the audio world.placebo
...... The Allman Brothers didNot to mention the posting experience.
Alcohol as a rule dulls the senses whereas legalized marijuana heightens the experience and being a roofer, Markie, I should think you like to get HIGH!I am a big believer in Placebo, in the audio world.
Drinking alcohol also helps the listening experience.
In view of the AP release of Bernie Grundman's new mastering (in digital download form), Josh Mound posted a further update to his TBVO column on Aja a couple of weeks ago. Scroll down to (or do a Ctrl+F on) "UPDATE OCTOBER 12, 2023." The upshot: the new Grundman mastering and Eli Brown's 2018 MQA CD are in a near-dead heat for his preferred version, for different reasons--none of them having to do with MQA encoding, which he sees as snake oil. But he still gives the (slight) edge to Brown. (Hoffman--or, if you prefer, "Hoffman"--is now out of the running.) Mound detects several differences in tonality; for starters, Grundman's mastering foregrounds Fagen's vocals a bit more and gives the kick and toms a little extra "thump"; Brown's has more "air," "mak[ing] it easier for the listener to turn their attention to individual elements in the mix." But he concludes that they're both excellent--and the Grundman mastering has the advantage of being widely available!If you read the October 2021 update to @JoshM's TBVO column on Aja (scroll all the way down), it seems he's no longer sure that what's been taken to be the Hoffman mastering is even Hoffman's.
Meanwhile, a couple of months ago, Hoffman now casually affirmed that he was "involved," uncredited, in the mastering of all the original SD CDs, offering recommendations to Nichols about levels, balance, and EQ. (Nichols, he says, sometimes followed his advice about levels and balance, but otherwise "ignored my little EQ touches and just ran [them] 'flat.'") Their working relationship wasn't exactly sweetness and light, he says, and yet "the stuff sounds good all these years later so maybe he was right."
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