Neil, I'm not having your experience with this (and I should note that I love the Crimson work, it's definitely better than this) but starting at the beginning of Station, center has no train -at all- or guitar, it's a very dry Bowie vocal (and this is my experience with all 6 tracks) it's totally discrete. Wildisthe wind is unbelievable for how dry the center channel vocal is, with the beginning nothing but kick drum and rim shot, no guitar at all until bowie sings. . ...on all cuts the level is low but i have the center running through its own amp, with separate stereo amps running fronts and rears, so muting is no prob. The volume on the center needs to be turned up. This is on an oppo.