Hello everyone,
again it seems Eclipse at Optimal doesn't like very much discs that otherwise are perfectly fitting in the specs...and it seems it happens also for Blurays. Our new Bluray has been already well tested by some members in this forum, and although not really 'welcomed' by Optimal I decided to do it all on my own again, as I did in the past, to save on our budget and keep complete control.
Disc is fantastic quality and plays very well, great feedback from testers here from EU and US, all good and on a range of players (from cheap to expensive to software)....but obviously Eclipse at Optimal refuses it because it has some problems with over or under flowing buffers.
For the tech ones, BDinfo scanned the disc and reported (full report at end of message) video peak for 1 sec at 23.5Mbps (well within the 40 Mbps limit and average 12Mbps), plus audio constantly at 18.4Mbps (well within the 27.6Mbps limit). Even summing the highest video peak with the highest audio the total is 41.9Mbps, that is well below the 54Mbps for BD Video movies. And I do this taking a 1 sec peak, that shouldn't be a problem at all.
Any suggestion/idea is welcome, below full BDinfo report:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.8
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PLAYLIST: 00000.MPLS
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QUICK SUMMARY:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 11,990,360,064 bytes
Length: 0:49:21.750
Total Bitrate: 32.39 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 12071 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 96 kHz / 4608 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 96 kHz / 13824 kbps / 24-bit
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PLAYLIST: 00001.MPLS
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QUICK SUMMARY:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 7,080,179,712 bytes
Length: 0:29:08.955
Total Bitrate: 32.39 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 12070 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 96 kHz / 4608 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 96 kHz / 13824 kbps / 24-bit
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PLAYLIST: 00002.MPLS
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QUICK SUMMARY:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00002.MPLS
Size: 1,121,169,408 bytes
Length: 0:05:26.534
Total Bitrate: 27.47 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 12067 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 96 kHz / 13824 kbps / 24-bit
again it seems Eclipse at Optimal doesn't like very much discs that otherwise are perfectly fitting in the specs...and it seems it happens also for Blurays. Our new Bluray has been already well tested by some members in this forum, and although not really 'welcomed' by Optimal I decided to do it all on my own again, as I did in the past, to save on our budget and keep complete control.
Disc is fantastic quality and plays very well, great feedback from testers here from EU and US, all good and on a range of players (from cheap to expensive to software)....but obviously Eclipse at Optimal refuses it because it has some problems with over or under flowing buffers.
For the tech ones, BDinfo scanned the disc and reported (full report at end of message) video peak for 1 sec at 23.5Mbps (well within the 40 Mbps limit and average 12Mbps), plus audio constantly at 18.4Mbps (well within the 27.6Mbps limit). Even summing the highest video peak with the highest audio the total is 41.9Mbps, that is well below the 54Mbps for BD Video movies. And I do this taking a 1 sec peak, that shouldn't be a problem at all.
Any suggestion/idea is welcome, below full BDinfo report:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.8
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PLAYLIST: 00000.MPLS
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Code:
Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00000.MPLS AVC 0:49:21 11,990,360,064 22,197,185,844 32.39 12.07 LPCM 2.0 4608Kbps (96kHz/24-bit) LPCM 5.1 13824Kbps (96kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.8
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 0:49:21.750 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 11,990,360,064 bytes
Total Bitrate: 32.39 Mbps
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 12071 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
LPCM Audio Undetermined 4608 kbps 2.0 / 96 kHz / 4608 kbps / 24-bit
LPCM Audio Undetermined 13824 kbps 5.1 / 96 kHz / 13824 kbps / 24-bit
FILES:
Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
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00000.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:49:21.750 11,990,360,064 32,387
CHAPTERS:
Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:02:24.394 12,068 kbps 17,593 kbps 00:00:01.334 13,411 kbps 00:01:12.655 12,842 kbps 00:01:30.340 62,898 bytes 277,051 bytes 00:02:03.957
2 0:02:24.394 0:07:00.878 12,078 kbps 19,210 kbps 00:02:25.311 13,622 kbps 00:02:25.144 12,739 kbps 00:02:24.936 62,971 bytes 362,968 bytes 00:02:36.865
3 0:09:25.273 0:04:41.906 12,075 kbps 16,684 kbps 00:13:37.358 13,262 kbps 00:13:34.313 12,789 kbps 00:13:29.308 62,953 bytes 386,683 bytes 00:13:27.807
4 0:14:07.179 0:05:35.585 12,062 kbps 15,861 kbps 00:16:59.727 13,023 kbps 00:16:11.595 12,623 kbps 00:15:19.627 62,888 bytes 326,102 bytes 00:14:42.673
5 0:19:42.764 0:04:48.204 12,065 kbps 15,677 kbps 00:20:33.148 13,086 kbps 00:22:45.030 12,682 kbps 00:23:48.802 62,891 bytes 190,036 bytes 00:21:21.613
6 0:24:30.969 0:03:18.323 12,070 kbps 18,125 kbps 00:27:30.732 13,677 kbps 00:27:16.509 12,884 kbps 00:26:17.200 62,943 bytes 385,619 bytes 00:26:24.499
7 0:27:49.292 0:07:26.779 12,084 kbps 20,334 kbps 00:27:50.210 13,667 kbps 00:27:50.043 12,794 kbps 00:33:51.237 62,998 bytes 574,836 bytes 00:34:55.885
8 0:35:16.072 0:02:52.630 12,051 kbps 16,736 kbps 00:35:18.908 13,217 kbps 00:35:55.194 12,699 kbps 00:35:23.329 62,827 bytes 438,123 bytes 00:35:40.054
9 0:38:08.703 0:04:35.191 12,074 kbps 16,886 kbps 00:38:11.539 13,274 kbps 00:38:22.883 12,742 kbps 00:38:22.675 62,951 bytes 355,351 bytes 00:38:32.685
10 0:42:43.894 0:06:37.855 12,066 kbps 15,376 kbps 00:47:42.526 12,930 kbps 00:43:42.161 12,585 kbps 00:48:42.002 62,911 bytes 224,684 bytes 00:43:31.859
STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:
File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00000.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 2961.667 12,071 4,468,891,326 24,329,863
00000.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 2961.667 4,614 1,708,325,864 9,477,536
00000.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 2961.667 13,831 5,120,238,272 28,432,605
QUICK SUMMARY:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 11,990,360,064 bytes
Length: 0:49:21.750
Total Bitrate: 32.39 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 12071 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 96 kHz / 4608 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 96 kHz / 13824 kbps / 24-bit
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PLAYLIST: 00001.MPLS
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Code:
Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00001.MPLS AVC 0:29:08 7,080,179,712 22,197,185,844 32.39 12.07 LPCM 2.0 4608Kbps (96kHz/24-bit) LPCM 5.1 13824Kbps (96kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.8
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00001.MPLS
Length: 0:29:08.955 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 7,080,179,712 bytes
Total Bitrate: 32.39 Mbps
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 12070 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
LPCM Audio Undetermined 4608 kbps 2.0 / 96 kHz / 4608 kbps / 24-bit
LPCM Audio Undetermined 13824 kbps 5.1 / 96 kHz / 13824 kbps / 24-bit
FILES:
Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
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00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:29:08.955 7,080,179,712 32,386
CHAPTERS:
Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
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1 0:00:00.000 0:09:21.352 12,069 kbps 23,566 kbps 00:00:01.835 13,809 kbps 00:00:01.710 12,962 kbps 00:06:04.155 62,918 bytes 555,089 bytes 00:00:23.898
2 0:09:21.352 0:08:31.177 12,070 kbps 22,078 kbps 00:09:31.946 13,769 kbps 00:10:11.652 13,109 kbps 00:09:31.487 62,928 bytes 373,432 bytes 00:11:07.958
3 0:17:52.529 0:05:44.594 12,070 kbps 19,305 kbps 00:18:01.413 14,377 kbps 00:17:58.118 13,224 kbps 00:17:53.113 62,928 bytes 391,819 bytes 00:22:28.221
4 0:23:37.124 0:05:31.831 12,069 kbps 20,412 kbps 00:26:09.526 13,702 kbps 00:28:41.761 12,861 kbps 00:23:42.504 62,928 bytes 418,187 bytes 00:24:51.490
STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:
File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00001.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 1748.872 12,070 2,638,632,368 14,365,464
00001.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 1748.872 4,615 1,008,794,360 5,596,640
00001.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 1748.872 13,831 3,023,584,576 16,789,919
QUICK SUMMARY:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 7,080,179,712 bytes
Length: 0:29:08.955
Total Bitrate: 32.39 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 12070 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 96 kHz / 4608 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 96 kHz / 13824 kbps / 24-bit
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PLAYLIST: 00002.MPLS
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Code:
Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00002.MPLS AVC 0:05:26 1,121,169,408 22,197,185,844 27.47 12.07 LPCM 5.1 13824Kbps (96kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.8
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00002.MPLS
Length: 0:05:26.534 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 1,121,169,408 bytes
Total Bitrate: 27.47 Mbps
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 12067 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
LPCM Audio Undetermined 13824 kbps 5.1 / 96 kHz / 13824 kbps / 24-bit
FILES:
Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00002.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:05:26.534 1,121,169,408 27,468
CHAPTERS:
Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
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1 0:00:00.000 0:05:26.534 12,067 kbps 22,327 kbps 00:03:50.063 14,037 kbps 00:03:49.896 13,017 kbps 00:04:08.831 62,911 bytes 603,532 bytes 00:02:38.199
STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:
File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00002.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 326.451 12,070 492,529,081 2,681,523
00002.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 326.451 13,834 564,505,064 3,134,688
QUICK SUMMARY:
Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22,197,185,844 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00002.MPLS
Size: 1,121,169,408 bytes
Length: 0:05:26.534
Total Bitrate: 27.47 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 12067 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Undetermined / LPCM Audio / 5.1 / 96 kHz / 13824 kbps / 24-bit