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HiRez Poll Squire, Chris - FISH OUT OF WATER [Blu-Ray Audio]

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Rate the BDA of Chris Squire - FISH OUT OF WATER

  • 10: Terrific Content, Surround Mix, and Fidelity

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  • 6

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  • 5

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  • 1: Terrible Content, Surround Mix, and Fidelity

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    6

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Please post your thoughts and comments on this 2020 Blu-Ray Audio release from Esoteric Recordings of the classic album "Fish Out Of Water" by Chris Squire.
The album was originally remixed and released in 5.1 surround in 2018 as part of a super deluxe edition of the album, but this is the first time that this 5.1 surround mix has ever been released on Blu-Ray!

 
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I'm jumping the gun on this (I need more listens) because I had looked forward to it for so long! I like the musical content, which is a given for these polls, of course, and having the old and new stereo mixes is a big plus. That said, I'm taking a point for how bright the original mix is and for the noticeable wear on the master tape. Another point off on principle for the infamous missing bass solo although I found so much to listen to I didn't miss it musically and it's on the original when I want to hear it.

It's fun to be in the center of the "orchestra" even if the instruments are clearly close-miked. 8/10!
 
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I'm not a habitual poll voter, myself--but I wonder if there hasn't already been so much discussion about the merits of the mix over on the pre-release thread (starting around the bottom of Page 11) that people have just forgotten to vote?
I'm wondering if there hasn't already been much discussion about the merits of the mix over on the DTS / DVD-V thread on this album's 5.1 mix:
 

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This is posted below this release of Amazon:

Playback Region B/2 :This will not play on most Blu-ray players sold in North America, Central America, South America, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Southeast Asia. Learn more about Blu-ray region specifications

I thought these type of discs were region free? Regardless my Oppo 103 should play it.
 

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This is posted below this release of Amazon:

Playback Region B/2 :This will not play on most Blu-ray players sold in North America, Central America, South America, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Southeast Asia. Learn more about Blu-ray region specifications

I thought these type of discs were region free? Regardless my Oppo 103 should play it.
Amazon puts that on every BD-A release I've noticed. Never been true, as far as I'm aware.
 

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This is posted below this release of Amazon:

Playback Region B/2 :This will not play on most Blu-ray players sold in North America, Central America, South America, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Southeast Asia. Learn more about Blu-ray region specifications

I thought these type of discs were region free? Regardless my Oppo 103 should play it.
This worry surfaces from time to time on QQ. Amazon is notorious for posting these spurious region warnings re BDAs.
 

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I was worried when Amazon put the same notice on the latest Pineapple Thief disc. When I zoomed in on the photo of the back cover and saw regions ABC, I ordered it anyway. Sure enough, it plays perfectly.
 

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I voted a “7” as well. This is challenging music for me, particularly the two longer pieces. There’s one track I really love on here and that’s “Lucky Seven”. Perhaps that ‘a-ha’ moment where the rest of the album clicks will eventually come, but it hasn’t yet.

The 5.1 is a mixed bag. I like how the different elements have been panned in the surround field--the rears generally feature strings and backing vocals, and there's even a few playful moments where instruments move around the room--but there are points where both the instrumental and tonal balances seem off to me.

As has been discussed elsewhere, there are a number of instances in the remix where Jakko opted to bring out instrumentation that was either really buried or completely absent from the original stereo mix. The album is relatively new to me, so I couldn’t spot every minute difference between the two mixes--but I felt that some of these alterations worked better than others.

For example--I like the extra strings in “Lucky Seven”, but the newly-revealed sax part in the rears during the instrumental rave-up in “Silently Falling” seems to drown out the bass and keyboard in the fronts.

My biggest gripe with the remix is the loud and harsh cymbal sound. When Bruford really gets going during the busier parts of “Silently Falling” and “Safe”, it gets irritating to the point where I feel like skipping forward or ejecting the disc. The original stereo mix sounds fine during these sections, so I’m not sure why the cymbals were EQ’d like that in the remix.

Overall, I’m glad Esoteric opted to reissue this in a standalone package. The Blu-Ray is well-authored and the price is certainly right. Glad to have it in the collection, even though I'm not crazy about the music.
 

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Even though I was a huge Yes fan back in the day, for whatever reason I avoided their solo albums - all of them. Weird, right? Anderson, Howe, Wakeman, and Squire too. Maybe I expected them to stay as 'Yes', and not betray the common cause? Oh I don't know...

So the Blu-Ray is my first time hearing this music. And I really am falling in love with it all. Sounds like a set of very personal, close to the heart, statements by Chris - lyrically very different from Jon A's approach. Unlike e.g. all the Yes surrounds, with this one, I am not listening to the music or the mixes with the original in mind at all. And it is just wonderful. So many different elements - with saxophones adding some really nice touches along the way, that really distinguish the sound field from Yes. And good to hear Bruford and Squire in action together again too. The surround mix didn't blow me way. The music does feel very well integrated to my ears- but the overall impact felt more like multi-channel stereo to me. And terrifically engaging as such. So overall an 8 from me...

Always a pleasure to pick up on something that you missed first time around - way over 45 years ago. (Dear Goodness!!)
 

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Just received my copy today and had a quick listen to the first track and I like it so far. Good booklet (need to sit and read it all) and packaging. Wish more big box sets had the option of just buying the hi-rez 5.1 and stereo disc like this and TFF.
 
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