The MAGNAVOX manual doesn't say where it gets the DD track to output when a TrueHD track is selected/playing (before investigating this issue, I thought the player decoded the TrueHD track and then encoded it into DD).
Kirk Bayne
Kirk Bayne
Seems unlikely. Presumably, it'll "find" the mandatory DD stream and just output that (digitally) via the coax output (and RCA analogue outs if it has them), regardless of what it might be outputting over HDMI...The MAGNAVOX manual doesn't say where it gets the DD track to output when a TrueHD track is selected/playing (before investigating this issue, I thought the player decoded the TrueHD track and then encoded it into DD).
Kirk Bayne
Presumably, it'll "find" the mandatory DD stream and just output that (digitally) via the coax output (and RCA analogue outs if it has them)
You sue people when they use your intellectual property without a licence. And within the industry, keeping the documents secret won't help because a) they leak b) engineers move between companies c) engineers are smart and given time to experiment at work can figure things out.Intellectual property??
But the tools to do so are wrapped up in being a Dolby licencee, which costs more than any home enthusiast is willing to pay.In-case people were not aware, Dolby TrueHD is nearing 20 years of age. And Dolby Atmos is over 10 years old!
There's been plenty of time to understand how they function. Even deconstruct them...
Anyone know the default channel mapping for Dolby TrueHD 7.1 (may contain Atmos) -> DD 5.1 (I'll be listening to the DD 5.1 track on this Pink Floyd Atmos mix)?
Kirk Bayne
No they're not... You can use 'third-party' applications such as: -But the tools to do so are wrapped up in being a Dolby licencee, which costs more than any home enthusiast is willing to pay.
The trouble with using third party applications is you don't know if you're creating something to Dolby's rules and intentions, or you're creating something that is technically invalid but happens to work on most players (possibly until some firmware update for them breaks it).No they're not... You can use 'third-party' applications such as: -
I think that the all the DD/TrueHD discussion should go to the Thread that Stupy posted above: Atmos and TrueHD 7.1 playback on 5.1 systems - Tests, Results, questions, experiencesSomeone should change the title of this thread and start a new one about the new Atmos mix of Dark Side of the Moon.
Oh yes please. Anywhere but within this Pink Floyd topic. So I can ignore itI think that the all the DD/TrueHD discussion should go to the Thread that Stupy posted above: Atmos and TrueHD 7.1 playback on 5.1 systems - Tests, Results, questions, experiences
I have done this with dozens of commercial Blu-rays, so I can assure you that compliant blu-rays structure the audio tracks this way. Here is the DSOTM Blu-ray main .m2ts file in TSmuxer:The trouble with using third party applications is you don't know if you're creating something to Dolby's rules and intentions, or you're creating something that is technically invalid but happens to work on most players (possibly until some firmware update for them breaks it).
How do you know your Blu Ray discs are fully compliant? Is there some Dolby tool you can run that checks everything? Because the fact they play does not prove they are fully compliant.
It's already clear this is a different Blu Ray since it is two discs combined into one. Who knows what else they'll change in the process. But I'd be assuming the embedded DD is likely to be 448Kbps.So...those of us who are kinda living in the recent past will be getting DSotM in 448Kbps DD 5.1 (the single Blu-ray is this mastering [documented above], not a new mastering with a possibly higher DD data rate)?
If you used room calibration that comes with your receiver (e.g. audyssey, ypao, mcacc) and you don’t remove the height speakers from the set-up in the receiver, I wonder if you would be missing any sound that Atmos or any DSP modes would be sending.I've lost the thread of this . . . thread (Not that I ever had it in my grasp). I recently moved the receiver and some player components from my Atmos setup to a temporary 5.1 setup. My question is this: Until I install and connect my overhead speakers, should I limit my players to output 5.1 or let them just keep sending Atmos to my receiver?
This depends on the AVR, but my Denon would not allow any Atmos processing at all without the height speakers physically connected to the device. So I imagine it would automatically be playing the 5.1 without them.If you used room calibration that comes with your receiver (e.g. audyssey, ypao, mcacc) and you don’t remove the height speakers from the set-up in the receiver, I wonder if you would be missing any sound that Atmos or any DSP modes would be sending.
So Kirk, you can’t play TrueHD? If not you could probably pickup an old AVR with TrueHD/DTS-HDMA (pre Atmos) pretty cheaply.
If you do have TrueHD then play the Atmos stream and you’ll hear lossless audio.
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