I'm just starting out with Quad, but I was just able to procure the second main piece of gear for my new system - a Harmon Kardon 8+ for $85US. From what little I've been able to read about it, it looks like it's going to be a decent deck, but I was wondering what others here thought. Anybody else here using one of these? I'm guessing that spending some money for a better quality Q8 player will pay off in the long run, but I haven't been able to find a list of the better decks. What other higher end Q8 players should I keep an eye out for, and is there a "holy grail" of Q8 players like the Sansui QRX-9001 is of receivers?