From Billboard: Studios Are Rushing to Record Music in Hi-Def Surround Sound

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Tribby2001

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That sounds just like a "stereo forever" guy talking about your 5 channel rig.
Their loss, and yours.

When the quality of "new", modern music produced today approaches the quality of the classics of my generation I may change my mind. Not before. I have another lifetime's worth of music in my library that would take years to listen to. If I don't spend another penny on another SACD it wouldn't bother me one iota. I have plenty of other interests to spend my hard earned retirement savings on. I don't need to support yet another format and upgrade yet more perfectly fine equipment. No thank you.

:eek:3 Trends That Prove CDs are Making a Comeback

 
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When the quality of "new", modern music produced today approaches the quality of the classics of my generation I may change my mind. Not before. I have another lifetime's worth of music in my library that would take years to listen to. If I don't spend another penny on another SACD it wouldn't bother me one iota. I have plenty of other interests to spend my hard earned retirement savings on. I don't need to support yet another format and upgrade yet more perfectly fine equipment. No thank you.

:eek:3 Trends That Prove CDs are Making a Comeback


I am getting an old man yells at cloud vibe. Do you realize that Atmos can sound great on legacy setups, or have you ignored it so well, that you never bothered to understand this simple fact.
 

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I was going to observe some releases that are indeed better than stuff from 1965, but damn that was a bumper year for great music so instead I'll simply state, people like what they like, why should anyone else be bothered by their preference?
I don't have ATMOS yet, simple room dynamics and cost, but I probably will get around to it after moving.
 

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Indeed. Even in my own NAS collection, I have over a thousand folders (artists or classical composers). They end up being listed alphabetically, and getting to “Zombies” takes forever. Thinking about making a heirarchy of folders with just “A” etc, but that’ll take a lot of time that usually gets used for listening.
Check out Kodi. It doesn't have that issue.
 

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I am getting an old man yells at cloud vibe. Do you realize that Atmos can sound great on legacy setups, or have you ignored it so well, that you never bothered to understand this simple fact.
Is what the old man yelled at the cloud stored in it?

What tiny percent of the people have the equipment and the know-how to play Atmos?

I saw an "Atmos soundbar" at Walmart. When I asked the audio salesman to demonstrate the Atmos for me, he didn't know how.
 
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Is what the old man yelled at the cloud stored in it?

What tiny percent of the people have the equipment and the know-how to play Atmos?

I saw an "Atmos soundbar" at Walmart. When I asked the audio salesman to demonstrate the Atmos for me, he didn't know how.
And you expected?.... The people in Walmart cant demonstrate a doorknob
 

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Is what the old man yelled at the cloud stored in it?

What tiny percent of the people have the equipment and the know-how to play Atmos?

I saw an "Atmos soundbar" at Walmart. When I asked the audio salesman to demonstrate the Atmos for me, he didn't know how.
Why care about anyone at Walmart when it comes to Atmos or music in general?
 

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This reminds me of the time back in the day when I was in a local audio store with my brother in law. He was looking to buy a new stereo receiver. The one he was looking at had a built in Dolby NR system for FM (a Marantz I think). He asked the salesman what it was for. The salesman replied it was to reduce the interference from low flying airplanes. No lie. Never went in there again.
 

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Seriously what is the difference in the 5.1 Blurays that came out 10 years ago or the DVD-A discs 15-20 years ago. It is still surround sound with just more speakers that 99% of people who don't have like me
Atmos/Spatial Audio for Headphones.

Many think it’s one and the same with real systems with real speakers.

I fear that’s all we’ll be left with in the end.
 

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Seriously what is the difference in the 5.1 Blurays that came out 10 years ago or the DVD-A discs 15-20 years ago. It is still surround sound with just more speakers that 99% of people who don't have like me
At least the Atmos mixes will fold down to 5.1, on systems that don't support Atmos processing. My biggest concern with these new, hi-rez releases that the record companies are SUPPOSEDLY clamoring to offer, is exactly how they intend to offer them. Will they be by download only? Will they be offered on BD-A, or SACD? Contrary to what they want us to believe, physical media is still a viable way to get the tunes to us. In fact, I'm one who prefers a medium I can hold in my hand. As long as I can get a hard copy of the music I want to buy, I'll spring for the bucks. But downloads? Thanks, but no, thanks.
 

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Funny about what is released on physical media these days...
All these supposed ATMOS mixes will never see a physical release, but you can buy your 4K UHD disc of "Waynes World" today.

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At least the Atmos mixes will fold down to 5.1, on systems that don't support Atmos processing. My biggest concern with these new, hi-rez releases that the record companies are SUPPOSEDLY clamoring to offer, is exactly how they intend to offer them. Will they be by download only? Will they be offered on BD-A, or SACD? Contrary to what they want us to believe, physical media is still a viable way to get the tunes to us. In fact, I'm one who prefers a medium I can hold in my hand. As long as I can get a hard copy of the music I want to buy, I'll spring for the bucks. But downloads? Thanks, but no, thanks.
Downloads? Who’s talking downloads?

Regardless, it’s not just a matter of whether it’s a viable medium (and I would argue it’s barely viable at this stage - at best). It’s also a matter of whether the rental model - which provides far greater control as well as steady, perpetual revenue streams - is preferred over the ownership model which provides none of that AND requires manufacture, distribution and returns of physical product as well as various middlemen and retailers take their piece.

I don’t like it either, but it’s a no-brainer if you’re in the entertaiment industry - which is ultimately just an IP software industry. The entertainment industry has actually been slow to the game, not the tip of the spear.

But the relatively minor near-term drawbacks from not producing physical digital product are easily offset by the long-term benefits of going streaming only in most cases. And that is only going to move more toward the rental/streaming only direction going forward, not from it.
 
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Funny about what is released on physical media these days...
All these supposed ATMOS mixes will never see a physical release, but you can buy your 4K UHD disc of "Waynes World" today.
I'm under the impression that Atmos is a "movie" audio format and music is an afterthought.
 

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I'm under the impression that Atmos is a "movie" audio format and music is an afterthought.
Your impression is wrong. Just look at the Spatial Audio section on Apple Music. New stuff added every week (albeit not necessarily targeted to the QQ demo). The music mixing studios with Atmos capability are quite busy these days.
 

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Seriously what is the difference in the 5.1 Blurays that came out 10 years ago or the DVD-A discs 15-20 years ago. It is still surround sound with just more speakers that 99% of people who don't have like me
Humm,
The only difference between them is the amount of data they can hold. It's up to the engineers what they choose to put on them.
Todays Atmos surround releases are awesome, don't miss out if you can.
 
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