OldAsMono
Senior Member
Who's Next was the first time I heard a 'different' Atmos mix from Steven Wilson that continued to Dweezil's Machine Head and now others too. You have to turn these up to get a complete balance. Who's Next seems to me to have the thunderous drums mixed low until turned up. Machine Head needs volume to also kick the super mix into gear. Worse yet are the many front heavy Atmos mixes that are being outshined surround wise by their Quad counterparts (as mentioned by @edisonbaggins in another thread.)
I have to ask Stephen ((@Stephen W Tayler) or any other Atmos mixers for streaming services IF they are being directed to turn back the surround at all by the labels or artists? I ask as I'm curious if our beloved Atmos mixes for discs are being dialed back for the masses on streaming services and then released on disc?
Quad sort of forced the mixing of good surround to fill only four channels (speakers) and it seems with Atmos many mixers are shooting for big stereo. The new Joni discs are amazing! I find the variety of stereo, quad, 5.1 and Atmos to be great examples. I rate the surround mixes as follows myself:
A) Atmos - Hand's down the best distinct sound. So fresh and about perfect. The only thing is "I' would have made the surround include more rear channel activities. These sound so crystal clear perfect.
B) Quad - As mentioned above, these quad mixes are pure all-around surround. A better surround experience then Atmos but lacking the crisp, perfect quality of Atmos.
C) 5.1 (Atmos downmix) - Alternate mixing choices and unfortunately sometimes the vocals include a slight echo that detracts from Joni's great voice.
Lastly I have to acknowledge that we here are all still tuning our Atmos systems to some extent or we wouldn't have such drastic different listening experiences. Besides my selfish desire for Atmos to become the de facto music standard, I also know these Atmos mixes need to impress the masses that we have a new (better) way to complement our stereo versions.
I have to ask Stephen ((@Stephen W Tayler) or any other Atmos mixers for streaming services IF they are being directed to turn back the surround at all by the labels or artists? I ask as I'm curious if our beloved Atmos mixes for discs are being dialed back for the masses on streaming services and then released on disc?
Quad sort of forced the mixing of good surround to fill only four channels (speakers) and it seems with Atmos many mixers are shooting for big stereo. The new Joni discs are amazing! I find the variety of stereo, quad, 5.1 and Atmos to be great examples. I rate the surround mixes as follows myself:
A) Atmos - Hand's down the best distinct sound. So fresh and about perfect. The only thing is "I' would have made the surround include more rear channel activities. These sound so crystal clear perfect.
B) Quad - As mentioned above, these quad mixes are pure all-around surround. A better surround experience then Atmos but lacking the crisp, perfect quality of Atmos.
C) 5.1 (Atmos downmix) - Alternate mixing choices and unfortunately sometimes the vocals include a slight echo that detracts from Joni's great voice.
Lastly I have to acknowledge that we here are all still tuning our Atmos systems to some extent or we wouldn't have such drastic different listening experiences. Besides my selfish desire for Atmos to become the de facto music standard, I also know these Atmos mixes need to impress the masses that we have a new (better) way to complement our stereo versions.