Philip Spinner
1K Club - QQ Shooting Star
Hi.Sorry false post!
Hi anyway
Hi.Sorry false post!
Hi anyway
Just received my SQ Vinyl edition this week and have been having great fun testing it. I already shared some of this with the nice folks at Involve Audio over PM. I again thank them for developing this great device.
1. QS decoding quite amazing, compares well with my Sansui QSD-2..in fact I may give that device a rest.
2. Quad synthesis best I have heard, from both LPs and streaming sources (eg Spotify). In some cases sounds better than actual quad releases of some of the material..very discrete in some cases amazingly so .
3. SQ decoding - my main issue. Better than my 'wave matching' decoder (built into my old Lafayette LR 4000 receiver), as there is no pumping, but, I'm finding the channel separation in some directions less than what I expected (e.g. center front to rear cancellation). I find the corners do better, even with multiple channels and
concurrent material . I know its recommended we not do individual channel tests..but I could not resist. Comparing the new AF Billy Joel 'Streetlife Serenade ' SACD vs the SQ..the SQ decoding gets the basic directions right (but so does my old wave match decoder) but I know Billy's vice should not be coming out of the back as loudly as it does and I sit closer to the rear speakers . I wouldn't complain so much but after reading the rave reviews and comparison to the Tate (which I don't own) was wondering. Maybe it's impossible to do better with a 40 year old matrix and old records.
Thanks
Sorry to be late to the party
If I hadn't been inept with my Google searching I'd have found this thread a long time ago and saved myself the trouble of a Sony SQD-2020 (and having it recap'd, etc). I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this thread on QQ - a modern SQ decoder - wow!
It appears the Involve SQ Vinyl edition is by "invite"/request - the main website knows nothing of it. I found one reference in the thread to a hidden link (http://involveaudio.com/products/surround-master-sq-edition) but it's dead/broken.
So my first post is to ask for someone to kindly extend an "invite" / provide ordering information.
Many thanks!
Steven
Sorry to be late to the party
If I hadn't been inept with my Google searching I'd have found this thread a long time ago and saved myself the trouble of a Sony SQD-2020 (and having it recap'd, etc). I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this thread on QQ - a modern SQ decoder - wow!
It appears the Involve SQ Vinyl edition is by "invite"/request - the main website knows nothing of it. I found one reference in the thread to a hidden link (http://involveaudio.com/products/surround-master-sq-edition) but it's dead/broken.
So my first post is to ask for someone to kindly extend an "invite" / provide ordering information.
Many thanks!
Steven
I have had the good fortune to audition the SQ Vinyl edition of THE SURROUND MASTER! Turning records over every 25 minutes is a pain in the ass….LOL….but the pleasure of hearing quad as it was meant to be heard, and better than the state of the art for 40 yrs.is cathartic. I was not able to AB, with the flick of a switch, the old SM with the Vinyl SM version, but I can say that through the VINYL SM, simultaneous signals originating in all four speakers are simply rendered with fantastic separation! TOUCH by Morton Subotnick is a must listen If you have it. There is continuous movement and extensive use of the rear left and right “pockets”, I think that’s how the SQ guys referred to the extreme right and left rears. This was always impressive through the TATE ll, but it was never this good spatially!
It may be my imagination, but I heard a lot of height info while listening to the first cut, Singing Winds, while listening to Santana’s ABRAXAS….and once again those rear signals really stayed in the pockets. While listening to the very last cut, El Nicoya, in the right rear, a single voice goes way beyond the rear pocket. I don’t ever remember hearing that before.
THERE GOES RHYMIN SIMON and LOGGINS AND MESSINA are well recorded and I can’t say I heard anything definitive that stood out…It was just a pleasure to hear them as they should be heard.
Rick Wakeman’s SIX WIVES OF HENRY Vlll was a surprise to me. I didn’t like listening to the SQ version because the separation was annoyingly indistinct, but I have to say I was pleased to detect the rears without struggling. I know this is a real difference, because I have, over the years, attempted many times to re-listen to this album, but would stop and listen to the cd through my Sansui ..and now through INVOLVE.
BITCHES BREW is a Miles Davis quad spectacular and it is really super spacey, but at the same time those rear channels are very clear and specific. I also plopped my Mike Oldfield Boxed CD on to see how it played through the Vinyl SM…It could be my imagination, but it never seemed this discrete and perfect. Wow!
Dwight
Chucky (and all),
I finally had the chance to hook up the Involve with the new SQ chip. You guys NAILED IT! This is now my "go to" SQ decoder. Although it has slightly (and I mean slightly) more leakage than the Tate, it doesn't have the extreme artifacts of it. The levels seem spot on now. To me, it's a vast improvement over the original release. FANTASTIC JOB...(and thanks for fixing my poor soldering).
Hi Chucky, do I order one of the Involve units that does SQ vinyl from your website?
I can only see the SQ "by the book" incarnation for sale there (I'm probably being thick and the option is right there under my hooter!) Thanks in advance!
Hi Fredblue
I have passed on your request and you will be contacted with details shortly. Alternatively PM "Overture" directly and he will get the ball rolling.
It really is a QQ special.
Regards
Chucky
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