Seems like collusion to get people sucked into multiple subscriptions.
Giles Martin to re-mix Sgt Pepper's Atmos Mix
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Disagree. Playing this while the first one is still somewhat fresh in my memory, I think I prefer the first atmos mix. They‘re similar for the most part, but the first one seemed to capture the essence of the album a little better.
To each his own though.
It would be nice to compare the two, but unfortunately that’s probably never going to happen.
You can’t. Unless like in the case of the new Pepper atmos mix, it simply replaces the old version.
You’re gonna be missing out on quite a bit in the not very distant future...
The future of surround is probably download-only, except in the case of a big seller, which would probably include the Beatles. If Apple Corps gets enough requests for a disc, it will probably happen.
Downloads of Atmos material at a resolution typical of Bluray audio would be a good middle of the road solution. But I would prefer the physical media. Certainly, Pepper would be a title that would sell.
If Apple gets enough requests? Sorry but they likely won’t nor will they care.
I don’t like it where it’s all headed, but I‘m not naive. The goal of streaming is not to provide an alternative. It’s to eliminate the other alternatives.
They’ve already milked Pepper. Net revenue from another physical copy focused on an atmos mix - in 2022 or beyond - would be a rounding error for Apple Corp.
It would be nice to get streaming at a higher resolution, but I’m not sure the folks who own the material and distribution will be very eager to jump on that once they‘ve locked out other possibilities. But hopefully it might be seen as a selling point for the streaming competitors.
If there is money to be made from either physical copies or downloads, they will be made available. None of the parties involved will leave money on the table.
If that doesn't happen and, the content isn't available any other way, it will be pirated.
If that doesn't happen and, the content isn't available any other way, it will be pirated.
Atmos streaming will be at better resolution in the future. Like all was done with 4k to video.
I‘m sure.
I‘m sure.
That would be very nice!
I agree.
If they don't want to sell me a disc they can keep their arguably better mix and I will keep my money. Basically they are saving me from myself. I will just have to make do with the thousands of discs I already have. Woe is me.
See now I wanna know when the Atmos mix of the White Album will be created...
Apple Corp has left lots of money on the table in the past and present. They play the long game.
Again, streaming isn’t about presenting an another alternative. It’s ultimately about getting rid of alternatives.
It’s not easy at present to pirate surround streaming on Apple Music. And it won’t be easy to make physical pirates when the discs are no longer made.
Perhaps. Maybe even probably.
But why isn’t it now? There is bandwidth to handle it and most systems could deal with it just as easily as the current upconverted PCM stream.
They thought they could stop VHS copying. They didn't.
They thought they finally had a theft-proof system with DVD. That's been cracked for a long time.
They thought they had a secure system with DVD-A, then SACD, then Bluray. Today they can all be easily ripped.
There are already ways to pirate video streams from the big players like Netflix, Hulu, and Disney.
Give the hackers time (not a lot... they dont need a lot). They will figure out how to steal Atmos streams as well. That may be even easier than hacking the physical copies.
It’ll be harder to hack streams than physical discs. But it’ll probably be a continual cat and mouse game.
Nevertheless you skipped past the more important point. If nobody is manufacturing physical discs, how will pirated recordings be broadly and easily distributed and sold? And frankly, given the legal market for physical discs of surround music is already exceedingly small, how much of a market will there be for pirated discs? Especially when you will be able to simply stream your choice of potentially hundreds or thousands of albums - legally and in better, more consistent quality - for $20 (or whatever) a month?
Again, I hate to see the option of owning versions of music permanently being phased out. But it’s not going to slow down or stop.
Ever heard of the internet? Downloads. Very few people care about physical discs any more.
Think what you like. But if there is a market there, someone will exploit it, whether legally or not. And there will be a market. Trust me, Id rather have downloads than disks. Discs are a nuisance to me. I buy them, rip them, store them and never take them out again. But there are many here and many more elsewhere that will not give up on physical media whether it be surround or stereo. And think of the purists out there. They will tell the streaming companies to take their product and stick it. They aren't playing that "crap" on their $40K systems. Releases from labels may slow down to a trickle, but media will still be available in some form for those who want it.
Yes, maybe a cat and mouse game. But the hackers always seem to catch up quickly.
You are assuming a lot here. This is a digital world. There will be no loss in quality.
Look at what is happening with video right now. Every streaming platform has exclusive material. Right now there is only Apple and Tidal streaming spatial audio. And even now, there are exclusive releases from those two providers. Wait until the next half dozen streaming companies come on board. That $20 will turn into $100 in order to get all the exclusive content.
And then it will be the end of days, and there will be cats and dogs living together.....and...
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