Yes - The Yes Album in 5.1 Surround DVD-A/BluRay in 2014

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A new interview with Steve Howe, and I've posted the most interesting points:

Mettler: I happen to think the surround-sound mix Steven Wilson did for Close to the Edge is one of the best ones I’ve ever heard. What did you think of it?

Howe: Yeah, it’s amazing. I was involved with some of the mixing, because he wanted some of my input. And since we were both in the U.K. at the same time, I got together with him to listen to some of it and talk about some of the details.

Mettler: What did you like the most about hearing this album in 5.1?

Howe: It’s not an easy question to answer. [laughs] He’s trying to get as close as he can to the original mix with what he was doing with the 5.1. At different times in my life, I’ve liked quadrophonic and 5.1, and so it’s really about having the hi-fi experience. And other times, it’s about having enough time for listening to things that way! But I admire him for doing it, and the label [Panegyric] for pushing to do it and giving us so many options in one release.

Mettler: Right — you have the needle drop, the updated mix, the original stereo, single edits, and the surround. The music on Edge is so enveloping to begin with that Steven’s 5.1 mix really puts us in the middle of what you guys were playing. Any moments you’d consider the most interesting?

Howe: You can hear the separation with the very fast organ playing at the beginning of “Close to the Edge.” It was overdubbed because Chris [Squire, bassist], Bill [Bruford, drummer], and I played together at the front end as a trio, and then we added Rick [Wakeman, keyboardist], who was playing remarkably fast — practically a double-speed version of the riff Chris and I played. But that kind of allows for the separation you can hear there.

Mettler: How involved were you with what Steven did for The Yes Album?

Howe: In a similar capacity. He wanted me to listen to what he did and then give my input. So I sat down with him and listened to it all. And before the Canadian tour started, I sat down with Steve for an afternoon and listened to [the next one Wilson is doing, which hasn’t been officially announced yet; sorry!—The SoundBard]. I did hear a few things, and they were able to take my comments and incorporate them as well as they could accommodate them. They’re very meticulous, in the way they want to match the original, or get as close to the original as humanly possible. Which in itself is a sort of paradox, because you have the original. [laughs] It’s also an unusual mix, but I’m very proud of Steve and that he’s going the whole distance. I’m just helping him where I can.

Mettler: He was very appreciative of you when he and I spoke about Edge in 5.1. He said having your input was invaluable to help keep things as faithful to the original as possible, and not, to use his words, “modernize it.” You were able to ground what he was doing.

Howe: That’s nice. On [the next one], there’s definitely a sonic improvement. There is a difference. It’s something that’s very, very hard to define — an openness to the higher registers of the music. It wasn’t easy doing all that with the technology of the time. Lining up every machine in the chain had to be perfect, and so did the phasing, the bias, the quality of the tape — it was all relying on so many things that are now blown away because everything is digital, you know. [laughs] It’s less reliant on lining up the accuracies of the tape, lining up engineers, lining up machines, the feed quality, and all the other things I mentioned. It was so boring then, and you just had to put up with it, but it was endless. The speed of the machines had to be so accurate to really be taken seriously, but nothing could ever be 100 percent perfect.

Mettler: There was a DVD-Audio 5.1 mix of Fragile in 2002. Do you think that’s an album Steven will get to revisit?

Howe: Maybe, yeah. That was one I mentioned to Steve. Although I appreciated what Tim [Weidner] did, I was unhappy that he included things that weren’t on the original record. Steven is only committed to having master parts on the recording — otherwise, it trivializes the idea. I was actually quite upset at what was on “Roundabout” — I mean, it’s fun that it’s different, but if it’s different, it’s wrong. I’m not too precious about it because not a lot of people heard it, but Steven’s remix will be thorough and consistent, and he will get around to Fragile. There are some issues with finding all of the masters, but we’ll get there.

Mettler: Is it open-ended that as many of the catalog masters you have in hand will get done in surround?

Howe: I don’t think we should say yea or nay yet, because there could be logistical things or even a question of taste. I mean, providing we don’t make a record sound worse [MM laughs], and we can make some of them sound even better. We’ve all got our favorite ones that we don’t like. I’m not going to say what it is, as there is an album like that which was disappointing sonically, and even the writing was a bit disappointing, and it’s in the ’70s —

Mettler: It wasn’t one that came out in 1978, was it?

Howe: [laughs] I’m not going to even go there! But there is one that’s like that sonically, structurally, and musically — everything about it. It’s not that it’s dreadful; it’s just that we didn’t quite get it right. I don’t know if a remix would make it right, but I really can’t say because I don’t think it could, because if you’re going to be true to the original, then you have to base it on the original.

Mettler: Well, what you could do is give people the original mix, just like you’ve done with Close to the Edge and The Yes Album — here’s the needle drop and the original stereo version, and now here’s the “updated” mix. Will we get to hear the new album, Heaven and Earth, in surround?

Howe: That’s a good idea. I mean, it’s funny that we’re doing music that’s 40 years old in 5.1, and yet we’ve just recorded Heaven and Earth and Fly From Here a few years ago [2011], and it might be more relevant to do 5.1 with those two releases. We’re a little backed up on time because of the touring, but maybe that could be a discussion later in the year so that we might have a 5.1 out by then. That’s a pretty cool idea.

I think that "next album" has to be either "Tales" or "Relayer". Both (but particularly "Tales") are notoriously mid-rangey for me (as far as its sound goes), so if they can broaden the frequency spectrum on those, then fantastic! :)
 
If he's concerned about faithfulness to the original mix, I'm surprised Steve Howe didn't object to some of the rebalancing Wilson did for CttE (mainly on the title track). Maybe he was just thrilled that the acoustic guitar outro to Siberian Khatru is finally well up in the mix.
 
I just had a very happy accident while listening to the MLP stereo mix with headphones.

After the last song, I accidently restarted Yours Is No Disgrace on the 5.1 mix and got solo left and right front. I was treated to an incredible sounding rhythm section mix. :yikes:banana: Just bass, drums, and a few guitar and keyboard parts.

Give it a try, you won't be disappointed!
 
The best Yes release will be the next one.
I'm sure because now for me it can only be one of my favorites :).
This year is a real big one for 5.1. I promised! :)

How can you know it will be the best one when we have not said what it will actually be yet?
(just curious, really.....)
 
How can you know it will be the best one when we have not said what it will actually be yet?
(just curious, really.....)

I think he's assuming, as its not Going for the One, that it will have to be either Tales or Relayer :).

I know that this is probably a question for the band/record company, but I can never understand the secrecy behind the name of the next release every time in this Yes series :confused:. What is to be lost by announcing what the next release is, as soon as it has been officially decided upon?
 
I think he's assuming, as its not Going for the One, that it will have to be either Tales or Relayer :).

I know that this is probably a question for the band/record company, but I can never understand the secrecy behind the name of the next release every time in this Yes series :confused:. What is to be lost by announcing what the next release is, as soon as it has been officially decided upon?

Most artists/record companies do not announce a release until it's officially time to do so.
The reason we are so well informed about the releases in the King Crimson and XTC series is that people like Robert Fripp and Andy Partridge are constantly communicating with fans online (Fripp through his diary and Partridge through Twitter). Every once and a while, we may also get an update from Ian Anderson as far as new Jethro Tull remixes, but usually that's about it.
These are people who are very clued in to what Steven Wilson is doing, and they're very excited about it as well. I can't say the same for the Yes guys (with the exception of Steve Howe). I think they are mostly concerned with new music and touring, and they see these new remixes as more money making opportunities.

Regardless of all that, the next Yes release will be a great one, but will it be the best? We shall have to wait and see… ;)
 
Most artists/record companies do not announce a release until it's officially time to do so.
The reason we are so well informed about the releases in the King Crimson and XTC series is that people like Robert Fripp and Andy Partridge are constantly communicating with fans online (Fripp through his diary and Partridge through Twitter). Every once and a while, we may also get an update from Ian Anderson as far as new Jethro Tull remixes, but usually that's about it.
These are people who are very clued in to what Steven Wilson is doing, and they're very excited about it as well. I can't say the same for the Yes guys (with the exception of Steve Howe). I think they are mostly concerned with new music and touring, and they see these new remixes as more money making opportunities.

Regardless of all that, the next Yes release will be a great one, but will it be the best? We shall have to wait and see… ;)

I understand I guess, and I'm extremely grateful for all the information that we do get. If "they" know now that, say, Tales is definitely going to be released next, then I don't see the harm in announcing it as soon as possible. This will kill all the speculation. And don't they understand that people have got avatars to change ;)
 
Most artists/record companies do not announce a release until it's officially time to do so.

:mad:@: :mad:@: :mad:@:


Just like your mom told the kids when you drove to Granny's house in the old station wagon: "We'll get there when we get there". (y)

My good man, RT, do you realize you are prone to rhetorical statements??? Yes, everything will happen "when it happens". My good man
Colsky made an excellent point. What is wrong with your paying customers have a little more notice? It isn't like the next YES release will be cancelled. And in the rare case that it is cancelled, record companies/bands have always issued some kinda cancellation/apology thing. Either way, it makes no sense for an artist to insist on such a narrow window between release date and sale date. The more time for word of mouth to spread, the better. That is just plain marketing common sense.

Part of the problem with low record sales(IMHO) is a prima-donna attitude with artists & labels. For some reason they feel the need to be like the NSA or Mi5. Everything must be hush-hush & top secret. Any other entity that wants to make $$$ by selling something thrives on marketing, word of mouth, etc...

To all the artists & labels. Respect the fact that we customers spend our lives buying your shit and spread the word to hundres of people increasing YOUR sales.
Y'all wanna play top secret squirrel? Fine. How bout we don't give a crap anymore about you clowns?

Hmm???:smokin



Ok, so now we know that Tales From Topographic Oceans has been leaked as the next one, which YES will be next in 5.1?


@RT, by the way, you did it again(saying you were more excited about the upcoming XTC release than the YES release.) You are down to your last strikebefore we take you off the list to be buried atop YES Tor!;)
 
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@RT, by the way, you did it again(saying you were more excited about the upcoming XTC release than the YES release.) You are down to your last strikebefore we take you off the list to be buried atop YES Tor!;)

I'd rather be buried at sea so my body can float among the Topographic Oceans.
Yes Tor is where a certain prog rock band went to die before being reincarnated as an 80s pop band with hits! Now you wouldn't want the same thing to happen to me now would you? ;)
 
What would change if we would already know which Yes album will be next, Dennis? :mad:@:

Uh.... well.... We would all be much happier!!!! :banana:

The vote will be a ten because there is no doubt it will be a ten. I pre-voted 10s for CTTE & TYA because they were going to be 10s and they were in fact 10s. If you are still confused, please read my sig. (y)

Just wait until I get to vote for Quadrophenia in 5.1. :smokin

@RT: You make excellent points as usual. Correct, after YES crossed YES Tor the evil Trevor came on board while Steve Howe was banned, then it got worse(if that was possible) and Billy Sherewood wormed his way in...:mad:@: And having almost no chance of it being any worse, it got worse. Jon Anderson got real sick and events saw him out of the band entirely... This is exactly why we need Tales, Relayer & GFTO in 5.1. Stat.
 
He must do. Thats been out for weeks now hasn't it?! I'm surprised Mr Moore didn't get this earlier, especially as its in his top 3 albums of all time :alienrob:

I would have had it sooner if it were not for the bloody stupid & slow US Customs service. It was posted in GB on the 11th and delivered just 2 days ago...:mad:

I would have had it sooner had I lived in Germany, but then I would have a life with:

No steak
Plump blonde women everywhere
12 dollar per gallon petrol
Brautwurst for lunch each day

So I can accept having Quadrophenia a few weeks later than iMachine. (y)
 
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