Hello.
First of all I have to say "thank the gods I finally found a forum where my questions might be answered". A board dedicated to surround production and lots of DiscWelder users - I just hope the best.
Okay, to my "little problem", which is kind of important cause I'm in the middle of a production and the stuff was planned to be released in early march already (but you know that... there always happens something - in this case a HDD crash) - so I'm kind of on a timer (till mid april). I'm working on a soundtrack project, called "Chrono Symphonic", which is a royalty free tribute project to the videogame "Chrono Trigger". The regular edition was released in january already, however I'm working on a "special edition" with additional tracks and even one or two of those tracks are planned to be released in 5.1 too.
The project was (and still is) planned to be released on Audio CD (redbook), while the surround tracks might be encoded with SRS Encoder (if they fix the bug with SX3 till end of the month), else my only option is DVD-A, which also turned out as the "best solution to release everything on one disc" for me (and I can learn how to get into that section). But this is just one aspect of the medal.
So much for the background story what I plan to do - on to the problem.
I only have access to DiscWelder Chrome at a friends studio. He's one of the crazy people who is like "yeah I gotta have it" and then he barely uses it or only the basic functions. The last couple of days I hung out in his studio I had the chance to take a deeper look at it, which brought me to the idea releasing that project on DVD-A too (still have the original stereo files in 48kHz 24bit before they were rendered down). Like I said... my friend is more like "advanced options? *pft* I go the standard way" and I'm not the person who likes standard textlinks and boring backgrounds.
Anyway... I'm not skilled as designer myself, I'm an engineer, so to get bit better access in terms of menu creating, I used DVD Menu Studio from MediaChance to create a BMP Backround and a BMP subpicture. Those were then loaded into DiscWelder (Custom Menu creation), I drew buttons for navigation, linked them together (4 pages), made my links to the tracks (I used 4 testtracks - 1 in 44kHz 16bit and 3 in 48kHz 24bit on 3 groups), double checked everything and activated "mirror VIDEO_TS".
After creating the image and testing it with a normal DVD player (cause I don't have a DVD-A player yet) the following occoured: nothing. And by that I mean... I fire up the created image with a DVD player (software) of my choice: PowerDVD, Media Player Classic, the standard one from Windows 2000 - the behavior is all the same. The menu shows up giving me he main page. I can then use the arrow buttons to choose which menu I want to access, but as soon as I access that menu, the DVD player stops on an instand. It doesn't even open the next page, it simply goes to "stop". Even tested that with a hardware player - same behavior.
So I went back to DiscWelder, did some bugtesting, analysed the menu again, double checked everything, redrew the buttons. After the rendering it's the very same behavior. "Okay" I thought "now let's do a test... what happens if I say 'don't route to this particular sub-page rather than going to the next page' (trigger 'next')?". Said and done, changed the link to "next" rather than "submenu CD01", rendered it, loaded it in the DVD player... now the funny part starts: I really can access the "next page", but then the player stops again, or hangs himself up.
No matter what I do, I can't get behind this issue. I browsed the manual (which is limited to "it should work"), looked in the internet to find a solution - nothing. I give up and simply scream: "HELP!"
This is where you come into place. Somebody of you discovered such issues and can help me (most important)? Or somebody knows where to get tutorials for "creating DVD menus" and knows what to do and what not?
I can provide you with snapshots if you want, my demo DVD renderings (packed 280MB each, extracted 970MB - royalty free music), ...whatever helps finding the bug. But please help me if you can!
DiscWelder is indeed a nice tool, and compared to others cheap for what you get. It can't be that you can't even produce custom menus (for DVD-A and/or hybrid video layers) but only use the standard links with a tool for 3000USD.
Thanks in advance.
First of all I have to say "thank the gods I finally found a forum where my questions might be answered". A board dedicated to surround production and lots of DiscWelder users - I just hope the best.
Okay, to my "little problem", which is kind of important cause I'm in the middle of a production and the stuff was planned to be released in early march already (but you know that... there always happens something - in this case a HDD crash) - so I'm kind of on a timer (till mid april). I'm working on a soundtrack project, called "Chrono Symphonic", which is a royalty free tribute project to the videogame "Chrono Trigger". The regular edition was released in january already, however I'm working on a "special edition" with additional tracks and even one or two of those tracks are planned to be released in 5.1 too.
The project was (and still is) planned to be released on Audio CD (redbook), while the surround tracks might be encoded with SRS Encoder (if they fix the bug with SX3 till end of the month), else my only option is DVD-A, which also turned out as the "best solution to release everything on one disc" for me (and I can learn how to get into that section). But this is just one aspect of the medal.
So much for the background story what I plan to do - on to the problem.
I only have access to DiscWelder Chrome at a friends studio. He's one of the crazy people who is like "yeah I gotta have it" and then he barely uses it or only the basic functions. The last couple of days I hung out in his studio I had the chance to take a deeper look at it, which brought me to the idea releasing that project on DVD-A too (still have the original stereo files in 48kHz 24bit before they were rendered down). Like I said... my friend is more like "advanced options? *pft* I go the standard way" and I'm not the person who likes standard textlinks and boring backgrounds.
Anyway... I'm not skilled as designer myself, I'm an engineer, so to get bit better access in terms of menu creating, I used DVD Menu Studio from MediaChance to create a BMP Backround and a BMP subpicture. Those were then loaded into DiscWelder (Custom Menu creation), I drew buttons for navigation, linked them together (4 pages), made my links to the tracks (I used 4 testtracks - 1 in 44kHz 16bit and 3 in 48kHz 24bit on 3 groups), double checked everything and activated "mirror VIDEO_TS".
After creating the image and testing it with a normal DVD player (cause I don't have a DVD-A player yet) the following occoured: nothing. And by that I mean... I fire up the created image with a DVD player (software) of my choice: PowerDVD, Media Player Classic, the standard one from Windows 2000 - the behavior is all the same. The menu shows up giving me he main page. I can then use the arrow buttons to choose which menu I want to access, but as soon as I access that menu, the DVD player stops on an instand. It doesn't even open the next page, it simply goes to "stop". Even tested that with a hardware player - same behavior.
So I went back to DiscWelder, did some bugtesting, analysed the menu again, double checked everything, redrew the buttons. After the rendering it's the very same behavior. "Okay" I thought "now let's do a test... what happens if I say 'don't route to this particular sub-page rather than going to the next page' (trigger 'next')?". Said and done, changed the link to "next" rather than "submenu CD01", rendered it, loaded it in the DVD player... now the funny part starts: I really can access the "next page", but then the player stops again, or hangs himself up.
No matter what I do, I can't get behind this issue. I browsed the manual (which is limited to "it should work"), looked in the internet to find a solution - nothing. I give up and simply scream: "HELP!"
This is where you come into place. Somebody of you discovered such issues and can help me (most important)? Or somebody knows where to get tutorials for "creating DVD menus" and knows what to do and what not?
I can provide you with snapshots if you want, my demo DVD renderings (packed 280MB each, extracted 970MB - royalty free music), ...whatever helps finding the bug. But please help me if you can!
DiscWelder is indeed a nice tool, and compared to others cheap for what you get. It can't be that you can't even produce custom menus (for DVD-A and/or hybrid video layers) but only use the standard links with a tool for 3000USD.
Thanks in advance.
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