jimfisheye
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Does anyone have any information on the Talking Heads DVDA "DualDisc" box set?
I picked this up used. The discs appear to be the DVDA format... but they're not (at least not the official standard version).
By "appear to be DVDA" I mean there's an AUDIO_TS folder with the expected files inside (IFO and AOB files). DVDAExplorer seems to recognize the discs as DVDA and I can see a track list of HD surround tracks and then HD stereo tracks. Except... DVDAExplorer acts like there are either errors or possibly some non-standard copy protection? It errors out the same way for each of the 8 discs (and immediately upon hitting extract).
These discs look completely undamaged. There is no sign of corrosion. I don't think it's reasonable that all 8 discs could have unseen damage and every one of them right in the very first moment of the first track.
This is all legitimate stuff too. These are the official releases (as far as I can tell anyway). I bought them used on eBay, so an Amazon style return for replacement is not an option here.
I play all media with the computer feeding an Apogee Rosetta800 audio interface. I purchase legitimate legal copies of my music (yes - sometimes used). I rip disc formats to lossless FLAC files (both 5.1 & stereo) to archive and listen to. I use DVDAExplorer for DVDA format discs and MakeMKV for blu-ray discs (MakeMKV charges $50 one time for continued access to the blu-ray copy protection codes so that Sony still gets their additional cut).
DVDAExplorer gives an error with the 'Recover from stream errors' and/or 'ignore stream errors' boxes unchecked. It hangs and crashes with the boxes checked.
MakeMKV doesn't even see the AUDIO_TS content - but I believe this app doesn't include the ability to rip DVDA (probably because they're doing business with Sony).
I tried copying the disc to the hard drive first. DVDAExplorer has the exact same troubles with the copy. (Copying both as a disc image and as data - which both normally work with DVDAExplorer.)
aside:
I had a old Nine Inch Nails DVDA (also a "DualDisc") that had some odd non-standard copy protection on it that I ripped with DVDAExplorer by running the Windows version of DVDAExplorer (I have an old install of Parallels with Windows XP still on my machine). Seems the copy protection was only enforced in OSX. When running the Windows version of DVDAExplorer directly in OSX (with Wine), the copy protection was still enforced.
That's all poor ideas from the past of course (the DRM). Since most of us listen to music with a computer, you can't very well try to sell discs that don't read anymore (or only play on some oddball proprietary hardware player).
Anyway...
I tried both Windows tricks with these Talking Heads discs and it didn't work!
Anyone know how to play these discs?
What app to rip them with?
Was there some odd format being sold in 2005 that I missed?
Or...
Could all 8 of these really be damaged?
Could I have possible bought bootlegs? (They sure look official. Box and everything.)
Right now they're coasters!
(The VIDEO_TS content seems to be there error free. As well as the lossy 16 bit portable copies on the flip side of the discs that I have zero interest in.)
Anyone have these discs and know how to successfully rip the DVDA content?
Or did I just pay WAY too much for a set of Talking Heads coasters?
I picked this up used. The discs appear to be the DVDA format... but they're not (at least not the official standard version).
By "appear to be DVDA" I mean there's an AUDIO_TS folder with the expected files inside (IFO and AOB files). DVDAExplorer seems to recognize the discs as DVDA and I can see a track list of HD surround tracks and then HD stereo tracks. Except... DVDAExplorer acts like there are either errors or possibly some non-standard copy protection? It errors out the same way for each of the 8 discs (and immediately upon hitting extract).
These discs look completely undamaged. There is no sign of corrosion. I don't think it's reasonable that all 8 discs could have unseen damage and every one of them right in the very first moment of the first track.
This is all legitimate stuff too. These are the official releases (as far as I can tell anyway). I bought them used on eBay, so an Amazon style return for replacement is not an option here.
I play all media with the computer feeding an Apogee Rosetta800 audio interface. I purchase legitimate legal copies of my music (yes - sometimes used). I rip disc formats to lossless FLAC files (both 5.1 & stereo) to archive and listen to. I use DVDAExplorer for DVDA format discs and MakeMKV for blu-ray discs (MakeMKV charges $50 one time for continued access to the blu-ray copy protection codes so that Sony still gets their additional cut).
DVDAExplorer gives an error with the 'Recover from stream errors' and/or 'ignore stream errors' boxes unchecked. It hangs and crashes with the boxes checked.
MakeMKV doesn't even see the AUDIO_TS content - but I believe this app doesn't include the ability to rip DVDA (probably because they're doing business with Sony).
I tried copying the disc to the hard drive first. DVDAExplorer has the exact same troubles with the copy. (Copying both as a disc image and as data - which both normally work with DVDAExplorer.)
aside:
I had a old Nine Inch Nails DVDA (also a "DualDisc") that had some odd non-standard copy protection on it that I ripped with DVDAExplorer by running the Windows version of DVDAExplorer (I have an old install of Parallels with Windows XP still on my machine). Seems the copy protection was only enforced in OSX. When running the Windows version of DVDAExplorer directly in OSX (with Wine), the copy protection was still enforced.
That's all poor ideas from the past of course (the DRM). Since most of us listen to music with a computer, you can't very well try to sell discs that don't read anymore (or only play on some oddball proprietary hardware player).
Anyway...
I tried both Windows tricks with these Talking Heads discs and it didn't work!
Anyone know how to play these discs?
What app to rip them with?
Was there some odd format being sold in 2005 that I missed?
Or...
Could all 8 of these really be damaged?
Could I have possible bought bootlegs? (They sure look official. Box and everything.)
Right now they're coasters!
(The VIDEO_TS content seems to be there error free. As well as the lossy 16 bit portable copies on the flip side of the discs that I have zero interest in.)
Anyone have these discs and know how to successfully rip the DVDA content?
Or did I just pay WAY too much for a set of Talking Heads coasters?
