john e. bogus
Well-known Member
Ok, after a too-long delay, I'm ready to make the first of what will hopefully be many offers of NEW and UNIQUE quad recordings to the group! While this first offer might not be one that interests most of the members here, I assure all of you that there will be plenty of varied material from both well known and more obscure artists offered up here in the future.....
What it is: The first offer consists of two bands, Solace and Rwake (from NJ and AR, respectively), live at The Ottobar in Baltimore, MD, on July 3, 2004. Solace is a metal band with an old-school type of musical vibe, whereas Rwake offers a slower, tuned-down, more experimental approach. The Solace set is 30 minutes, Rwake's set is 45 minutes long.
Technical info: The quad recordings were made on a Tascam 4 track DBX cassette deck. The front channels are Nakamichi 300 microphones fed into a Sony D7 DAT deck, then fed into channels 1 & 2 of the Tascam. The rear channels are two small generic condenser capsules mounted on the t-bar below the Nak's with about a 6 inch spacing, fed into channels 3 & 4 of the Tascam. A piece of cardboard was placed in front of the omnidirectional capsules as a Jenklin-type shield, so that the rear microphones could not "see" the stage or PA, thus recording the room ambience in the rear channels. The recording turned out excellent, the results being beautiful ambient quad....the sense of imaging and space is incredible, you can even hear the delay of transient sounds bouncing off the back wall before they hit the rear microphones....MUCH more realistic sounding than the usual stereo audience recordings that I'm used to making. The location for the recording was directly in front of the soundboard. In addition to the 48 khz DAT stereo recording, a DV videotape was also shot with a tripod-mounted Canon ZR-60.....the one flaw of these recordings is that I took the audio feed for the video camera from channels 1 & 2 of the Tascam, and apparently had a flaky connection, as there is no audio on the videotape. Because of this, I have obtained an alternate videotape, tripod shot (also shot in DV format) from the balcony, from supernerd23, another taper that I know.
The package: What I'm sending out is a package that consists of:
2- DBX 4-channel cassettes....these are the actual master tapes, as I
currently have no way to copy them to another 4 channel format.
1- 48khz stereo DAT tape, digitally copied from the DAT master.
1- VHS NTSC videotape, which contains copies of both my DV master and
supernerd23's. (at the very end of the tape, I have a camera shot of the
microphone setup and recording gear)
2- DV NTSC videotapes (no audio)....these are the actual master tapes, as I
currently have no way of making digital DV > DV copies.
The rules:
#1 NO SELLING!!! This is a FREE offer! These bands are gracious enough to allow us to tape the shows, PLEASE respect that by not selling copies of these recordings or giving a copy to anyone who would sell them! Anyone discovered selling these recordings will have action taken against them here by our ever-vigilant moderators. Anyone selling these recordings on ebay will be reported to ebay and you WILL be shut down. If the RIAA happens to take notice of these recordings being sold, you could find them dragging you into court as well. It's perfectly legal to own a copy of these recordings, and to GIVE a copy to someone else, but selling a copy IS illegal. Let's combat the attitude of "I've got mine, neener neener" and SHARE something amongst each other here....this site is about the enjoyment of music in MC formats, so let's try to make sure that everyone can enjoy these recordings and spread them around for free. If everyone plays nicely, then my next offer will be for an artist that is much more well known and popular....we'd all like to see more offers like this in the future, wouldn't we? NO SELLING!!! Got it?
#2 This offer is what is called a "train". This means that the package will be sent to the first person in the train, who copies it and sends it directly to the next person, and so on. When no one else has signed up to receive the package, the end of the train is reached and the package (my irreplacable quad master tapes!) gets sent back to me after everyone else is done with it. Signup is accomplished by posting on this thread that you are interested in receiving the package. The first person in line is bizmopeen, as he was the one who so graciously donated the 4 channel Tascam to this cause, thus making this offer possible in the first place....we all owe him a big THANK YOU! Bizmopeen, once he is done making his copies of the tapes, will send a private message to the next person in line to ask for a mailing address....that next person in line will make their copies and do the same thing, and down the line the train will move. Notice that this system is based on TRUST.....trust that no one will take the recordings and vanish, as well as trusting that these recordings will not be sold....let's not have one person's greed destroy the fun for everyone, ok?
#3 THESE QUAD RECORDINGS CAN ONLY BE PLAYED BACK AND ENJOYED IF YOU HAVE A 4 CHANNEL CASSETTE DECK WITH DBX. Please do not sign up for the train here if you do not also have this necessary piece of equipment. Along with enjoyment of a new quad recording unavailable anywhere else, the other purpose of this offer is to encourage experimentation and advancement of technical knowledge. It is expected that many of you will transfer these recordings to other formats....if you do so, please start a new thread for "offer #1 (insert new format)" for each new format transferred to, and thus seed a train for each new format. I'd like to see these recordings transferred to as many MC formats as possible and trained, so that everyone in the group can enjoy them, regardless of what formats they may have equipment for. 4 channel reel? Easy, many here own two of these decks....offer it up! DVD-A? DTS? Just about everyone can play these formats....offer them up! Get creative....how about replacing the analog front channels with the DAT tracks and synching them up during a transfer to DVD-A or DTS? How about a DVD with both the video and MC audio? DVD with video and the audio in SQ? SQ CD's or DAT tapes? Can we even cram alternate camera angles onto a DVD with acceptable MC audio? Experiment and offer up your results (remember to include full technical details...this is important!) so that everyone here can enjoy them, no matter what equipment they own....let's have FUN!
#5 Since everyone may not be able to copy all or even any of the various formats that this will probably be transferred to, that will obviously prevent some of you from signing up for the various trains. In that case, it is expected that anyone signing up for any of the trains will provide a B&P to any other member of this group who desires one, thus making the recordings available to EVERYONE for free. What's a B&P? It stands for Blanks & Postage: You send a blank (CD, DVD, tape reel, cassette, whatever your choice of format is) to someone who already has the recording in that format, along with adequate return postage....that person simply makes a copy for you and sends it back, using the blank media and postage that you provide. Trades for other recordings are of course also acceptable, as long as there is no monetary exchange. Remember, play nice and share....
#6 By accepting any of these recordings in any format, you are agreeing to all of these rules.
#7 Read rule #1 again....
The tapes are now on the way to bizmopeen, let's get started! Enjoy!
Yours Truly,
john e. bogus
What it is: The first offer consists of two bands, Solace and Rwake (from NJ and AR, respectively), live at The Ottobar in Baltimore, MD, on July 3, 2004. Solace is a metal band with an old-school type of musical vibe, whereas Rwake offers a slower, tuned-down, more experimental approach. The Solace set is 30 minutes, Rwake's set is 45 minutes long.
Technical info: The quad recordings were made on a Tascam 4 track DBX cassette deck. The front channels are Nakamichi 300 microphones fed into a Sony D7 DAT deck, then fed into channels 1 & 2 of the Tascam. The rear channels are two small generic condenser capsules mounted on the t-bar below the Nak's with about a 6 inch spacing, fed into channels 3 & 4 of the Tascam. A piece of cardboard was placed in front of the omnidirectional capsules as a Jenklin-type shield, so that the rear microphones could not "see" the stage or PA, thus recording the room ambience in the rear channels. The recording turned out excellent, the results being beautiful ambient quad....the sense of imaging and space is incredible, you can even hear the delay of transient sounds bouncing off the back wall before they hit the rear microphones....MUCH more realistic sounding than the usual stereo audience recordings that I'm used to making. The location for the recording was directly in front of the soundboard. In addition to the 48 khz DAT stereo recording, a DV videotape was also shot with a tripod-mounted Canon ZR-60.....the one flaw of these recordings is that I took the audio feed for the video camera from channels 1 & 2 of the Tascam, and apparently had a flaky connection, as there is no audio on the videotape. Because of this, I have obtained an alternate videotape, tripod shot (also shot in DV format) from the balcony, from supernerd23, another taper that I know.
The package: What I'm sending out is a package that consists of:
2- DBX 4-channel cassettes....these are the actual master tapes, as I
currently have no way to copy them to another 4 channel format.
1- 48khz stereo DAT tape, digitally copied from the DAT master.
1- VHS NTSC videotape, which contains copies of both my DV master and
supernerd23's. (at the very end of the tape, I have a camera shot of the
microphone setup and recording gear)
2- DV NTSC videotapes (no audio)....these are the actual master tapes, as I
currently have no way of making digital DV > DV copies.
The rules:
#1 NO SELLING!!! This is a FREE offer! These bands are gracious enough to allow us to tape the shows, PLEASE respect that by not selling copies of these recordings or giving a copy to anyone who would sell them! Anyone discovered selling these recordings will have action taken against them here by our ever-vigilant moderators. Anyone selling these recordings on ebay will be reported to ebay and you WILL be shut down. If the RIAA happens to take notice of these recordings being sold, you could find them dragging you into court as well. It's perfectly legal to own a copy of these recordings, and to GIVE a copy to someone else, but selling a copy IS illegal. Let's combat the attitude of "I've got mine, neener neener" and SHARE something amongst each other here....this site is about the enjoyment of music in MC formats, so let's try to make sure that everyone can enjoy these recordings and spread them around for free. If everyone plays nicely, then my next offer will be for an artist that is much more well known and popular....we'd all like to see more offers like this in the future, wouldn't we? NO SELLING!!! Got it?
#2 This offer is what is called a "train". This means that the package will be sent to the first person in the train, who copies it and sends it directly to the next person, and so on. When no one else has signed up to receive the package, the end of the train is reached and the package (my irreplacable quad master tapes!) gets sent back to me after everyone else is done with it. Signup is accomplished by posting on this thread that you are interested in receiving the package. The first person in line is bizmopeen, as he was the one who so graciously donated the 4 channel Tascam to this cause, thus making this offer possible in the first place....we all owe him a big THANK YOU! Bizmopeen, once he is done making his copies of the tapes, will send a private message to the next person in line to ask for a mailing address....that next person in line will make their copies and do the same thing, and down the line the train will move. Notice that this system is based on TRUST.....trust that no one will take the recordings and vanish, as well as trusting that these recordings will not be sold....let's not have one person's greed destroy the fun for everyone, ok?
#3 THESE QUAD RECORDINGS CAN ONLY BE PLAYED BACK AND ENJOYED IF YOU HAVE A 4 CHANNEL CASSETTE DECK WITH DBX. Please do not sign up for the train here if you do not also have this necessary piece of equipment. Along with enjoyment of a new quad recording unavailable anywhere else, the other purpose of this offer is to encourage experimentation and advancement of technical knowledge. It is expected that many of you will transfer these recordings to other formats....if you do so, please start a new thread for "offer #1 (insert new format)" for each new format transferred to, and thus seed a train for each new format. I'd like to see these recordings transferred to as many MC formats as possible and trained, so that everyone in the group can enjoy them, regardless of what formats they may have equipment for. 4 channel reel? Easy, many here own two of these decks....offer it up! DVD-A? DTS? Just about everyone can play these formats....offer them up! Get creative....how about replacing the analog front channels with the DAT tracks and synching them up during a transfer to DVD-A or DTS? How about a DVD with both the video and MC audio? DVD with video and the audio in SQ? SQ CD's or DAT tapes? Can we even cram alternate camera angles onto a DVD with acceptable MC audio? Experiment and offer up your results (remember to include full technical details...this is important!) so that everyone here can enjoy them, no matter what equipment they own....let's have FUN!
#5 Since everyone may not be able to copy all or even any of the various formats that this will probably be transferred to, that will obviously prevent some of you from signing up for the various trains. In that case, it is expected that anyone signing up for any of the trains will provide a B&P to any other member of this group who desires one, thus making the recordings available to EVERYONE for free. What's a B&P? It stands for Blanks & Postage: You send a blank (CD, DVD, tape reel, cassette, whatever your choice of format is) to someone who already has the recording in that format, along with adequate return postage....that person simply makes a copy for you and sends it back, using the blank media and postage that you provide. Trades for other recordings are of course also acceptable, as long as there is no monetary exchange. Remember, play nice and share....
#6 By accepting any of these recordings in any format, you are agreeing to all of these rules.
#7 Read rule #1 again....
The tapes are now on the way to bizmopeen, let's get started! Enjoy!
Yours Truly,
john e. bogus
