Atmos will fold down to 5.1 on non-Atmos ready systems
Peter Gabriel I/O (2CD/Blu-Ray with Dolby Atmos mix out 12/1!)
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I must have listened to a different Atmos mix
wilberforce55
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Very annoyed there is only an Atmos mix on this. How hard would have a 5.1 have been to include?
Just read above. It folds down to 5.1
Just read above. It folds down to 5.1
JulesRules
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Thanks for teaching me a new word
Lmao!
That's curious. How come? (Mind, I'm in a similar position - I have heard So, but I never bought an album of his until now)
Just label them Mix 1 and 2, and then listen to the end of "Olive Tree" to check out which is which - the Bright-Side Mix ends with "Water falling on me" acapella, the Dark-Side Mix has no vocals in the last few seconds.
Just haven’t gotten around to sitting down and absorbing his catalog. I’m a huge fan of PG with Genesis so I know I’m gonna like his solo stuff. Looking forward to it!
Just label them Mix 1 and 2, and then listen to the end of "Olive Tree" to check out which is which - the Bright-Side Mix ends with "Water falling on me" acapella, the Dark-Side Mix has no vocals in the last few seconds.
@JulesRules
Thank you, I was lucky enough to have them tagged correctly based on your description.
Good catch as I would have never caught that.
Being that you nailed that so well, would you be able to give an overall description as to the basic differences between Bright Side and Dark Side?
Wikipedia says:
Regarding Live and Let Live from the Blu Ray, I have:
Inside Mix 7:12
Dark Side and Bright Side both 7:13.
I did not rip the CD's, but I will now just to see if the 25 second difference is correct.
@JulesRules
Thank you, I was lucky enough to have them tagged correctly based on your description.
Good catch as I would have never caught that.
Being that you nailed that so well, would you be able to give an overall description as to the basic differences between Bright Side and Dark Side?
Wikipedia says:
- On digital and 2CD/Blu-ray editions containing both stereo mixes (or all three mixes for the latter), "Live and Let Live"'s Dark-Side and In-Side mixes are extended by 25 seconds. This also applies to the vinyl version of the Dark-Side Mix.
- Both Mark 'Spike' Stent and Tchad Blake contributed a mix of each song from I/O. Gabriel said, "Rather than choosing only one of their mixes to release, I have decided that people should be able to hear all the great work that they are both doing."[28] Stent's mixes are released as the 'Bright-Side Mix', while Blake's mixes are the 'Dark-Side Mix'.[28][29] All the songs have each also received a third alternate mix in Dolby Atmos, called an 'In-Side Mix', by Hans-Martin Buff.[30][31]
Regarding Live and Let Live from the Blu Ray, I have:
Inside Mix 7:12
Dark Side and Bright Side both 7:13.
I did not rip the CD's, but I will now just to see if the 25 second difference is correct.
Because of the way the blu-ray was mastered all the versions have the same track length. But the shorter ones are just padded with silence. This is the case with the Bright Side mix of Live and Let Live. It is 6:49 on the CD, but 7:13 on the Blu-ray to match the others. But the Blu-ray version has 25 seconds of silence at the end to pad it out to the 7:13 length.
Very interesting, I am learning, thank you.
I just went back and listened to Live and Let Live, stereo Blu Ray rips.
You have to turn up volume fairly high at end because the song is a long fade out.
But @Cheezmo is also correct.
My rip via JRiver playback has:
Bright Side ending at 6:49
Dark Side ending at 7:13.
We now have two definitive answers from @Cheezmo and @JulesRules , thank you both.
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I can relate to having to listen in lesser sound devices. My Atmos 7.1.2 system and high end Oppo/Polk stuff are all in storage after our move, waiting for me to build the new media room. But with PG, there’s no waiting. I can safely report the i/o bluray sounded GREAT on my Sonos Playbar/Sub/2 rears system, which is really only 3.1 surround paired with my low-end Sony bluray player. Especially the bass stylings and rear effects. The sound engineers definitely put some TLC into this mix so that it shines in lots of different listening environments IMHO.
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Just ordered from Amazon 2cd and blu-ray for about $30. I hope it’s legit as I only want the atmos version. Will know soon enough!
Amazon is legit. I've bought lots of things from them.
Why wouldn't it be?
Tribby2001
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I don't like it.
Tribby2001
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I had high hopes for this release. I really like much of Peter's work. But I didn't purchase this release and will not vote.
Don't get me wrong. I'm sure the multi-channel engineering and recording quality is top notch. It's impossible to imagine it not being so. That's not why I didn't buy it. It's the depressingly dark winter like mood that prevails throughout the compositions with only a couple of slight exceptions. Each composition to me seems to monotonously grovel on and on with very little variation or surprise. It actually induces sadness in me and makes me deeply depressed.
To me there is no "Bright Side".
I'm sorry but I'm depressed enough in my old painful aged body. I need more uplifting variety and excitement in my music. To each their own. I just wanted to express my thoughts. Does anyone agree?
Don't get me wrong. I'm sure the multi-channel engineering and recording quality is top notch. It's impossible to imagine it not being so. That's not why I didn't buy it. It's the depressingly dark winter like mood that prevails throughout the compositions with only a couple of slight exceptions. Each composition to me seems to monotonously grovel on and on with very little variation or surprise. It actually induces sadness in me and makes me deeply depressed.
To me there is no "Bright Side".
I'm sorry but I'm depressed enough in my old painful aged body. I need more uplifting variety and excitement in my music. To each their own. I just wanted to express my thoughts. Does anyone agree?
I find this album to be very consistent with PG's general body of work. Pretty sure making us feel good isn't top of mind for him. Other than a few standalone hits I can't think of many PG songs I'd play at my next party... That said I also don't find this album particularly depressing or monotonous, like most of PG's work it requires quite a few spins and deeper listening to understand and appreciate.
JoshBasswood
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What about upfiring speakers on top of your front L R speakers (assuming that you have standing front speakers)? I have those to expand my 5.0 setup to a 5.2.0 atmos setup. Not the summum of Atmos, admittedly, but it does make a considerable difference. And at least I don’t feel left out anymore
(in all honestly I think my wife would rather have me put speakers in the ceiling where there are much less visible)
Hope you feel better soon.
Thanks - that makes sense on the ambient noise floor. Looks like I'm stuck at 44db then
I use REW and a UMIK mic for all my measurements.
Maybe give it a few more tries? I’d certainly say it’s a contemplative record, but not depressing. Maybe it’s just the fact of how much I love PG, but some of the poppier tracks have me bursting with joy. Maybe a few felt “monotonous“ on first or second listen. But, once I became a bit more familiar with slow build on tracks like Playing for Time or Four Kinds of Horses and they hit their high mark… powerful. I’d also argue that while many of the tracks do have that contemplative feel to the music and lyrics, PG’s outlook is more positive than gloomy or gravely.
And p.s., live in concert the new stuff was spectacular with some absolutely brilliant musicians supplementing his longtime collaborators.
