- Apr 26, 2002
- Viva Las Vegas
Telling if it's a DVD5 or a DVD9 is as simple as looking at the disc in your drive, and seeing how large it is!The mix is not dramtically differenty from the original DVDA but as stated some missing parts were found and I believe a section of the Profet song and God save the queen are essentailly new mixes.
I think teh difference in sound is more down to DTS encoding, that anything else I suppose I should go back to the origianal DVDA and listen to the DTS track to confirm that.
I also could not see why the could not/would not add an MLP copy to the disc as well is that down to 'real estate' Neil I cant tell if its a DVD 5 or 10.
The CD I beleve got a general thumbs up on the Hoffman site at the time.
I also have both as I am quite a big queen fan and if the other albums were given this kind of Anniversary treatment then i would be a happy man.
8 for me though.
I have noticed a few musical DVD-Vs that had (IMO) the rears +3dB, maybe this was one of them. In that case it might have been introduced in the (DTS) encoding stage or when mastered on a wrongly calibrated system (hard to imagine). THX has a mode where the rears are lowered -3dB, but it is meant for cinematic material really... Bohemian Rhapsody. Vocals are much, much louder in the rears to the point of overwhelming in places[..] The section in "The Prophets Song" [..] again seems to be too loud in the rears.
I have not seen or read anything that makes me believe that this is a whole new mix other than God Save The Queen. I'm going with your theory of an encoding issue.I have noticed a few musical DVD-Vs that had (IMO) the rears +3dB, maybe this was one of them. In that case it might have been introduced in the (DTS) encoding stage or when mastered on a wrongly calibrated system (hard to imagine). THX has a mode where the rears are lowered -3dB, but it is meant for cinematic material really.
I was not saying that this is a bad release far from it i had hoped it would encourage the rest of teh Queen catalog to be revamped in 5.1 (Queen 2 and News of the World especially). sadly it does not look to be the case.Telling if it's a DVD5 or a DVD9 is as simple as looking at the disc in your drive, and seeing how large it is!
If it is under 4.5Gb, then it's a DVD5. Larger and it is a DVD9.
Because of the heavy video content I would guess it's a 9.
Hold on a minute please, and I will go & look. Won't be long.....
Back - it's a DVD9, just - 5.32Gb so there is certainly enough room to add the lossless.
The DVD-A is a DVD( at 7.71Gb, split out as 3.36 in the Audio_TS and 3.85Gb in the Video_TS, so there is indeed plenty of room for the lossless to have been added. .
Moving right on. This new version really is different in my studio - it's a hell of a lot brighter, and the mixes are quite different on the tracks I have heard & compared. I will sit down & go one to the other, but just check Bohemian Rhapsody. Vocals are much, much louder in the rears to the point of overwhelming in places yet the DVD-A is far better balanced in this respect. The section in "The Prophets Song" is allegedly the vocal breakdown in the middle of it and again seems to be too loud in the rears.
Overall, it is also a lot louder with less dynamic. That is overcompression or overly hard limiting - Bob Ludwig seems to be VERY prone to this, check out the Layla SACD for an example. But i digress.
There are a lot of little things like this on the album.
Don't get me wrong - this is a great release, but to my mind the DVD-A simply sounds better, it's better balanced, it's not so squashed - and none of this is down to the DTS reduction. Sure, it loses a hell of a lot by chucking out data and even a DTS stream will sound somewhat thinner than a lossless stream.
I'm going to stop now, before I degenerate into pure ranting.
Buy this record - it is worth the money. But the DVD-A is still better.
If I recall correctly Brian May had to change some very minor things (besides GSTQ).The liner notes specifically state there have been changes.
That's true enough.As you know, DTS 96/24 has a "core" stream that's standard 48kHz. It is pretty save to asume that DVDdecrypter doesn't know about the DTS 96/24 extension.
I don't have a parlophone version. That is seriously scarce & I have only ever heard about it & never seen one.Neil,
Did you ever get to do a comparison between the Parlaphone version and the Hollywood release?
Since they have different core numbers,
I'm wondering if there are any oddities with that one.
(I know there are 2 different Hollywoods, one pre-release which sounds like
cattle fodder, and the normal issue.)
Here are some scans of the disc and rear cover of the Parlophone edition.I don't have a parlophone version. That is seriously scarce & I have only ever heard about it & never seen one.
I have the 2 Hollywood records versions (The Pre-Release & the one I got from yourself), with different hub numbers but I have not (yet) had the time to check the mixes. I will try to make time.
Different Hub Numbers mean that a different master set was used. This could be caused by one of 2 things - either an authoring error or a mix change. Given the potential for a clash between Elliot & Brian May, I suspect the latter. ALl I do know is that one of the engineers at Brian May's studio confirms there were multiple versions done for ANATO.