Personally I am rooting for a box set of Santana just like the Chicago Quadio release. The first nine albums, Santana, Abraxas, III, Caravanserai, Welcome, Borboletta, Amigos, Festival, and Moonflower. It would cover almost the exact same years, 69-76/77. I have the first seven but I want legal copies.
Personally I am rooting for a box set of Santana just like the Chicago Quadio release. The first nine albums, Santana, Abraxas, III, Caravanserai, Welcome, Borboletta, Amigos, Festival, and Moonflower. It would cover almost the exact same years, 69-76/77. I have the first seven but I want legal copies.
I would replace Amigos (which is fake Quad, don't ask me why!!) with Lotus...especially if it's Sony JAPAN, and since there was never a REAL stereo mix, they are all SQ encoded...
.... makes me wonder if something didn't go awry with their Quad gear out there, or maybe they just gave up trying as Quad limped on and they were committed to Quad (contractually, I mean.. or because the artists themselves, i.e. Herbie Hancock and Santana wanted their work mixed and released in Quad at that time?) but thought "who really cares about this anymore? lets just fake it, maybe no-one will notice!"
Ahh Quaaludes...in the UK it was Mandrax....
They were all too off their faces in SF by '76, so they just faked the Quad mixes? Wow.. that's one theory I hadn't considered..![]()
Still, I would be really intrigued to hear the Quad master tapes of "Amigos" and "Festival", regardless, not least to hear exactly how they are supposed to sound without the limitations of SQ, etc..
YOU BET YOUR SWEET BIPPIE!!!! ...'ludes were everywhere...we used to call them "Tape erasers" cause they made your memory VERY Fuzzy the next day...not that I EVER did any...![]()
Regarding Amigos, there hasn't been a Q8 ever, so it's all speculation; about Festival, the Q8 is IMHO the most disappointing Q8 ever done by Columbia. Double stereo with different EQ front/rear.
If they had to do a box, there's plenty of stuff:
I
Abraxas
III
Caravanserai
& Buddy Miles Live (fake live, but ok)
Welcome
& J.McLaughin Love Devotion and Surrender
& T.A. Coltrane, Illuminations
Lotus (triple lp)
Borboletta
That's 12 slabs of SQ LP ready to go in a digital discrete form. Enough for a boxset.
Thanks for the recap.. so, are you saying you would rather the Amigos & Festival Quads were not included in a potential Santana Quad Box set?
Aren't you curious to hear what the actual Quad masters of Amigos & Festival sound like?
Maybe the Q8 of Festival got screwed up? Maybe the SQ of Amigos got screwed up also?
Hope springs eternal, as RT would say!![]()
Yeah , what the hell...we might as well have them all in 96 (NOT 192...PLEASE!!) Hi Res...even if they are not REAL quad mixes!!!
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..and the most likely complete fake would be Festival, if the Q8 is accepted to be an accurate rendition of the master tape Quad mix, described as having double stereo with EQ jiggery pokery to differentiate front from back (like some of the RCA Q8s iirc?).. then how comes Secrets & Amigos SQ LPs are not double stereo when decoded by the Surround Master? Its just odd...
Secrets is almost bearable (its such a great album I just enjoy the Quad anyway) but with the Amigos Quad as I've ever heard it decoded from SQ vinyl it is hard to know exactly what they were trying to do with the Quad.. even if it is a total fake, its a pretty messed up one!
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Thanks for the recap.. so, are you saying you would rather the Amigos & Festival Quads were not included in a potential Santana Quad Box set?
Aren't you curious to hear what the actual Quad masters of Amigos & Festival sound like?
Are you referring to a DTS rip of the Quad LP or Q8?
The actual DTS CD of this was 100% crap!!
Just gave the SQ disc a spin on a new turntable so figured I'll comment. It's definitely one of the those legendary quad mixes everyone needs to hear...sure it's a little gimmicky but lot of fun. I've heard both the DTS and the robin reel conversion. The reel does have more bass the but DTS really isn't that awful IMO.
Personally I gravitate more to I and III lately but this is just as brilliant. 10