Jeff Beck Group - Truth

[Tribby2001]

Arrived! - Time to get busy...

Quick listen track one - louder, a bit more bass than AF SH SACD.

 

[marpow]

Just some hobby notes that you may find interesting. I have four recent editions of Truth and will try and give a proper listen for comparison, ears and comfortable listening only, but for now: Tracks 1-10, Dynamic Range.

2006 Japanese SHM CD 16/44.1 w/Bonus Tracks: 10, 10, 08, 09, 11, 12, 10, 09, 11, 09.
2015 HDTracks FLAC 24/96 Download: 11, 10, 10, 09, 11, 12, 11, 09, 11, 10.
2017 Audio Fidelity Hybrid SACD DSD64: 11, 11, 10, 10, 11, 12, 12, 10, 12, 10.
2021 MOFI Hybrid SACD DSD64: 10, 09, 10, 08, 11, 11, 10, 08, 12, 10.

For me this is an iconic album and have liked all versions including my long gone orginal LP. Prior to this 2021 MOFI release I have leaned towards the HDTracks download. Now, time to listen.

 

[Tres Discrete]

Just some hobby notes that you may find interesting. I have four recent editions of Truth and will try and give a proper listen for comparison, ears and comfortable listening only, but for now: Tracks 1-10, Dynamic Range.

2006 Japanese SHM CD 16/44.1 w/Bonus Tracks: 10, 10, 08, 09, 11, 12, 10, 09, 11, 09.
2015 HDTracks FLAC 24/96 Download: 11, 10, 10, 09, 11, 12, 11, 09, 11, 10.
2017 Audio Fidelity Hybrid SACD DSD64: 11, 11, 10, 10, 11, 12, 12, 10, 12, 10.
2021 MOFI Hybrid SACD DSD64: 10, 09, 10, 08, 11, 11, 10, 08, 12, 10.

For me this is an iconic album and have liked all versions including my long gone orginal LP. Prior to this 2021 MOFI release I have leaned towards the HDTracks download. Now, time to listen.

Any verdict, oh wise one?!

 

[4-earredwonder]

Any verdict, oh wise one?!

I don't have the MoFi SACD but from the DR scores which Mark posted looks like the Audio Fidelity 2017 Truth SACD remaster is a clear winner!

 

[Tres Discrete]

I don't have the MoFi SACD but from the DR scores which Mark posted looks like the Audio Fidelity 2017 Truth SACD remaster is a clear winner!

Sadly, the AF is now too expensive for this late-comer
…but I do have a MoFi in transit…hopefully a good runner-up

 

[Matt Wilson]

Ordered the Mofi SACD from importCDs a couple of weeks ago and they haven't even sent it yet.

 

[Goona]

I don't have the MoFi SACD but from the DR scores which Mark posted looks like the Audio Fidelity 2017 Truth SACD remaster is a clear winner!

Anyone who goes just by Dr scoresis clearly missing out. The Mofi is outstanding .

 

[Tres Discrete]

Ordered the Mofi SACD from importCDs a couple of weeks ago and they haven't even sent it yet.

I ordered from Acoustic Sounds the week before it was released. They would later inform me it was backordered but would be back in stock May 29…which came and went with no shipment. When I inquired they basically admitted they could not tell if or when they would get any back in stock. Assuming the limited run had sold out, I picked up a copy on eBay for $35.99 and cancelled my original order figuring they would never in fact be able to stock it.
Not sure if I am right in that assumption, but having missed out on the Audio Fidelity release (and loving this album), I figured a $6 premium was a pretty good insurance policy

 

[marpow]

Any verdict, oh wise one?!

Oh boy, pressure. I will give you the best I can.
I listened to all 4 versions via rips, JRiver, stereo. Cued them up side by side so I could go from one to the other track by track.
HDTracks= sounded like I had 10 grills on my speakers, very recessed, back of room sound, no good tone.
Audio Fidelity= good on it's own, but nothing special, an improvement over the HDTracks download. Still missing that tone I wanted.
SHM CD= Real good, sharp and crisp, great tone. A little more of the tape hiss is gone and on Blues Deluxe starts off without the 2 seconds of ambient concert hall noise, which is fake.
MOFI= Real good, great tone and low end.
Toss up for me, I love the album so any version is good, but when comparing the four, it is cleary the SHM CD or the MOFI.

 

[Tres Discrete]

Oh boy, pressure. I will give you the best I can.
I listened to all 4 versions via rips, JRiver, stereo. Cued them up side by side so I could go from one to the other track by track.
HDTracks= sounded like I had 10 grills on my speakers, very recessed, back of room sound, no good tone.
Audio Fidelity= good on it's own, but nothing special, an improvement over the HDTracks download. Still missing that tone I wanted.
SHM CD= Real good, sharp and crisp, great tone. A little more of the tape hiss is gone and on Blues Deluxe starts off without the 2 seconds of ambient concert hall noise, which is fake.
MOFI= Real good, great tone and low end.
Toss up for me, I love the album so any version is good, but when comparing the four, it is cleary the SHM CD or the MOFI.

Great - thanks - my MoFi is waiting at the Post Office for me…can’t wait to hear it
Side question: I have some SHM SACD’s but not CD’s.
Do you find the SHM improves CD’s in general?
Thanks!

 

[musicmemorabiliashoppellc]

Great - thanks - my MoFi is waiting at the Post Office for me…can’t wait to hear it
Side question: I have some SHM SACD’s but not CD’s.
Do you find the SHM improves CD’s in general?
Thanks!

TD…I know you were asking Marpow but it me depending on the title it’s a mix. I guess depends more on the mastering/mix….IMHO….for what it is worth. My fav SHM is The Rolling Stones “Sticky Fingers” can’t go wrong with that!!

 

[marpow]

Great - thanks - my MoFi is waiting at the Post Office for me…can’t wait to hear it
Side question: I have some SHM SACD’s but not CD’s.
Do you find the SHM improves CD’s in general?
Thanks!

I really like SHM CD's but not to the point I only buy them as they are expensive. I like when CDJapan does a Mini LP SHM CD series, man they all sound great, like for instance they did Savoy Brown, Canned Heat, Steve Miller, etc, really good, just one offs I don't buy. The Jimi Hendrix Blu Spec CD2 Electric Ladyland was the best until the deluxe box came out. To be very honest, I don't think I have ever heard a bad one, at least equal or better than RBCD's.
Now, some folks here on QQ might say, why are you wasting your money on a gimmick that is the same 16/44.1 sample rate as a regular CD, I say, in more or less nice words, fuck off, it's my money and I didn't ask for your input. But that's how QQ can go sometimes.
The new Japanese MQA disc's, which also have much controversary, can have the same argument. I do not have an MQA DAC or Player, but I have bought about 5 of them mainly Greatest Hits, and they certainly sound good, would love to hear one completely unfolded some day.
I think you should buy at least 3-5 of them and check it out and see what you think compared to a regular CD. One thing that is cool, the Japanese really do a fantastic job on replicating the Mini LP artwork.
I have been doing this quite awhile now and it is all such a crap shoot between downloads and discs, you just have to try a few of everything. Then you have to quietly listen in a comfortable space to determine your new music.
If I listened to music the way I would like to all the time, I would do nothing else and my back would be seriously fucked up from all the sitting.
Feel free to ask me more if you would like.