Have you set the player to output bitstream instead of pcm? The player decodes dts-hd-ma which is what the quadio discs arehi
thx for that advise but i have. i was told by denon that there are no updates.
Have you set the player to output bitstream instead of pcm? The player decodes dts-hd-ma which is what the quadio discs arehi
thx for that advise but i have. i was told by denon that there are no updates.
Not sure what player you are using, but I had strange issues with a couple of Blu-rays when trying to playback DTS HD MA on my Oppo 95. Yet they play perfectly fine on the Sony UBP-x800M2. However, I don't have any issues with the Rhino Quadios.The quadio is dts-hd-ma, the denon receiver plays dts-hd-ma, not sure why there would be a problem unless there’s something in the settings? Maybe it’s set to default to pcm instead of bitstream? I have a denon avr and the Paranoid quadio plays as soon as I put it in the player
I have a Denon avr-x2600Not sure what player you are using, but I had strange issues with a couple of Blu-rays when trying to playback DTS HD MA on my Oppo 95. Yet they play perfectly fine on the Sony UBP-x800M2. However, I don't have any issues with the Rhino Quadios.
i actually tried the same thing except i used my sharp bluray player into my akai quad amp. it did not work. i am thinking it was the sharp bluray. maybe i should buy a oppo, do they still make them?This is why I am frozen in time with a Sony STR-DE945 and Oppo BD-80. I can come out of the Oppo to the Sony’s discrete 5.1 inputs, without need for HDMI and all that entails. (The Sony also has a good phono section, which many modern AVRs lack.) I guess I’m a dinosaur, but it works well.
Unfortunately noti actually tried the same thing except i used my sharp bluray player into my akai quad amp. it did not work. i am thinking it was the sharp bluray. maybe i should buy a oppo, do they still make them?
You can find them used. Check eBay.maybe i should buy a oppo, do they still make them?
You can buy them 2nd hand, be prepared to remortgage your house thoughi actually tried the same thing except i used my sharp bluray player into my akai quad amp. it did not work. i am thinking it was the sharp bluray. maybe i should buy a oppo, do they still make them?
i actually tried the same thing except i used my sharp bluray player into my akai quad amp. it did not work. i am thinking it was the sharp bluray. maybe i should buy a Oppo, do they still make them?
I was referring to the optical player, not the AVR. I have experienced different results using different optical players, an Oppo versus a Sony as already noted above. What is your Blu-ray player? Have you tried an alternate player in your rig to see if it will play the Rhino discs?Denon avr-x2600
I am not the one having problems playing the discs, i’m just trying to help the OPI was referring to the optical player, not the AVR. I have experienced different results using different optical players, an Oppo versus a Sony as already noted above. What is your Blu-ray player? Have you tried an alternate player in your rig to see if it will play the Rhino discs?
When they added speakers to the standard to go from 5.1 to 7.1 the 5.1 Rear identifier codes became the Sides/Surrounds, its annoying (I have a Smyth A16 Realiser for headphones and by default it does as you have found). I have a 5.0.4 Atmos speaker set-up so I don't get the problem playing that way.Hi all. I am dumbfounded, but finally found this discussion which could be the issue I am having. I have a denon 4310 receiver and 7.1 channel system hooked up to this receiver as my modern receiver, versus my true quad setup. I use an oppo 203. I have been reading and reading and just don’t get why I can’t hear the rear channels on m/c sacd’s from the rear (surround back is the speaker connection for these)! Ugh! Unlistenable to me as the unit plays “rear” from the side rear channels. I want to hear the Dutton Vocalion discs and the quadios in 4 channel, or at least with music sent to the rears. I have studied the manual and messed with every setting on the denon and it simply won;t direct the rear music to the rear, only the side which are directly to the sides of my listening position. I use hdmi for the connection and could use analog if I wanted to wire it that way, but am I to understand this issue is coming from the disc and the way it was chosen to be output? Is there a workaround? I wanted to hear these on my modern speakers and setup if possible. Any suggestions? Thanks if there is any way to help me understand the issue and/or fix it. If someone were just starting a modern system, how would they listen to these quad-sourced discs with music in the rear and front? How are people enjoying these? I have been buying these for several years (D-V, Quadio when they came out, and other sacd;s and dvd-a’s that are m/c, but mostly immersed in my vintage quad. Now that I want to see if I can move into more modern equipment and still enjoy quad, I am hitting dead-ends. Thanks in advance for any additional insight or understandings. Probably poor picture, but shows my left channel Axiom audio QS-8s (side/rear) and M22ti (rear surround) speakers. The Heresy’s are for my vintage quad setup rears and serve to hold my M22’s for the modern setup. Thanks again.
I used to have a Denon 4310, and one of the things I loved about it was that it would somehow detect when I was playing music and send the surround signals to my rear speakers. When I played movies and TV programs, it would send the surround signals to my side speakers. I've looked at the manual online, but I can't remember if there was a setting or configuration I had to set up.Hi all. I am dumbfounded, but finally found this discussion which could be the issue I am having. I have a denon 4310 receiver and 7.1 channel system hooked up to this receiver as my modern receiver, versus my true quad setup. I use an oppo 203. I have been reading and reading and just don’t get why I can’t hear the rear channels on m/c sacd’s from the rear (surround back is the speaker connection for these)! Ugh! Unlistenable to me as the unit plays “rear” from the side rear channels. I want to hear the Dutton Vocalion discs and the quadios in 4 channel, or at least with music sent to the rears. I have studied the manual and messed with every setting on the denon and it simply won;t direct the rear music to the rear, only the side which are directly to the sides of my listening position. I use hdmi for the connection and could use analog if I wanted to wire it that way, but am I to understand this issue is coming from the disc and the way it was chosen to be output? Is there a workaround? I wanted to hear these on my modern speakers and setup if possible. Any suggestions? Thanks if there is any way to help me understand the issue and/or fix it. If someone were just starting a modern system, how would they listen to these quad-sourced discs with music in the rear and front? How are people enjoying these? I have been buying these for several years (D-V, Quadio when they came out, and other sacd;s and dvd-a’s that are m/c, but mostly immersed in my vintage quad. Now that I want to see if I can move into more modern equipment and still enjoy quad, I am hitting dead-ends. Thanks in advance for any additional insight or understandings. Probably poor picture, but shows my left channel Axiom audio QS-8s (side/rear) and M22ti (rear surround) speakers. The Heresy’s are for my vintage quad setup rears and serve to hold my M22’s for the modern setup. Thanks again.
Thanks for that! I will look for that option. These past years I realize I kept running into the issue, so kept returning to 2-channel vinyl and quad listening wrongly assuming it would be a quick fix when I looked into it. Now I know and get what the issue is. I do appreciate the help. If this does not work, I will come up with a plan b. I do not really care about ht, but do care about multi-channel, quad and stereo listening. Glad I am on the right track now. Oh - if I were to play one of these sacds on my vintage oppo (not blu-ray capable) through my vintage 4-channel Sansui 9001 and 4 Klipsch setup, would the dutton vocalions and other non blu-ray discs sound good in quad or would there be information missing? I can certainly listen for myself, but curious if it would work and not be sub-optimal. And here I am in the middle of trying to decide to get my quad stuff to play on modern equipment.When they added speakers to the standard to go from 5.1 to 7.1 the 5.1 Rear identifier codes became the Sides/Surrounds, its annoying (I have a Smyth A16 Realiser for headphones and by default it does as you have found). I have a 5.0.4 Atmos speaker set-up so I don't get the problem playing that way.
I've a Denon AVC-X8500HA and in Speaker Settings for the Sides/Surround the options are Large/Small/None. I couldn't find a manual for your 4310, but if it has that option select None for the Side/Surround and hopefully it will redirect to your Surround Back speakers, so the Quad then ought be as you'd expect. I hope!
Thanks, paligap! That gives me hope. I have hooked up the rears to the amp/assign/back channels as of yesterday and will look for this. There is also a surround b set of jacks on the back and maybe it will let me choose between surround a and b if I use that and work that way. Glad I put on banana plugs yesterday while accidentally yanking out some hdmi sources, and all the nonsense of dark, close, quarters, crappy flashlight and a million or so cablesI used to have a Denon 4310, and one of the things I loved about it was that it would somehow detect when I was playing music and send the surround signals to my rear speakers. When I played movies and TV programs, it would send the surround signals to my side speakers. I've looked at the manual online, but I can't remember if there was a setting or configuration I had to set up.
I no longer have rear speakers, so it's a moot point for me now.
Thanks, paligap! That gives me hope. I have hooked up the rears to the amp/assign/back channels as of yesterday and will look for this. There is also a surround b set of jacks on the back and maybe it will let me choose between surround a and b if I use that and work that way. Glad I put on banana plugs yesterday while accidentally yanking out some hdmi sources, and all the nonsense of dark, close, quarters, crappy flashlight and a million or so cables. Will also be looking into other settings per DuncanS. BTW - what was your upgrade path from the 4310? i have loved its sound, but am may looking at higher end Avr or even separates as I also want to get highest resolution from my 2-channel music. Thanks for the help!.
It's been a while since I had my 4310 system, but if I recall correctly, in addition to surrounds and surround backs (Denon term), I also had front wides, which I would have had to connect to the Amp Assign terminals. That means that I probably had my surround backs connected to the Surround B terminals. However, I don't know if that's the only configuration to get surround signals to go to the surround back speakers. Looking at pages 34-35 and 71-75 of the manual, it looks like there might be more than one way, but it might also involve some trial and error.Thanks, paligap! That gives me hope. I have hooked up the rears to the amp/assign/back channels as of yesterday and will look for this. There is also a surround b set of jacks on the back and maybe it will let me choose between surround a and b if I use that and work that way. Glad I put on banana plugs yesterday while accidentally yanking out some hdmi sources, and all the nonsense of dark, close, quarters, crappy flashlight and a million or so cables. Will also be looking into other settings per DuncanS. BTW - what was your upgrade path from the 4310? i have loved its sound, but am may looking at higher end Avr or even separates as I also want to get highest resolution from my 2-channel music. Thanks for the help!.
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