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HiRez Poll Tears For Fears - THE SEEDS OF LOVE [Blu-Ray Audio]

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Rate the BDA of Tears for Fears - THE SEEDS OF LOVE

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  • Total voters
    32

4-earredwonder

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NOT that we really need any further plaudits for SEEDS of LOVE but nice to know blu~ray.com has awarded the Steve Wilson remix a solid 5 Star REVIEW:

 

Hamilton59

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My copy arrived late yesterday evening but I didn't have time to listen to it. I was anxious to hear the title track so I did demo that one cut before retiring late last night.
I bought the original CD when it was released. I loved the Sowing the Seeds of Love track and MTV video. The Beatlesque style was very obvious and enjoyable to me. I thought they did a great job of building the song up to it's glorious finale. The rest of the disk didn't really grab me, and over all, I prefer their Songs From the Big Chair release. I probably haven't listened to The Seeds of Love CD for over a decade now.
So last night I anxiously put in the new disk and selected the Sowing the Seeds of Love track and ... it was just OK. The mix sounded off to me with some of the vocal parts mixed too low and it didn't seem to build up to the glorious finale that I remembered. Strange. After listening to the song I sat there fairly disappointed. Yes the mix is in surround sound but it wasn't as good as I had hoped or imagined. Then I did something that I never do with these surround disks.... I saw that they had included the original 1989 Bob Ludwig stereo versions and so I played the stereo (gasp!) track. Immediately, I had to turn up the volume to get it to a good listening level (Wilson's 5.1 is mastered higher) and the sound that came out was beautiful, with an almost 3D sound from just the two main stereo speakers. I actually had to verify that my AVR was outputting stereo and not an up-mixed surround sound, it wasn't. Hummm. I played the 5.1 track again and I could obviously hear the surround mix is wider and more spacious, but to me, it is missing some.... magic.
Today, I've listened to the entire disk twice and the title track several times, and think it's OK. Unfortunately, it's not the glorious, magical surround sound experience I was expecting based off of the music.... much like my feelings for The Beatles Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - it could have been so much more. I'm leaning towards an 8 for the poll, but I want to give it some more time and a few more listenings...
 

Toto4Ever

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My copy arrived late yesterday evening but I didn't have time to listen to it. I was anxious to hear the title track so I did demo that one cut before retiring late last night.
I bought the original CD when it was released. I loved the Sowing the Seeds of Love track and MTV video. The Beatlesque style was very obvious and enjoyable to me. I thought they did a great job of building the song up to it's glorious finale. The rest of the disk didn't really grab me, and over all, I prefer their Songs From the Big Chair release. I probably haven't listened to The Seeds of Love CD for over a decade now.
So last night I anxiously put in the new disk and selected the Sowing the Seeds of Love track and ... it was just OK. The mix sounded off to me with some of the vocal parts mixed too low and it didn't seem to build up to the glorious finale that I remembered. Strange. After listening to the song I sat there fairly disappointed. Yes the mix is in surround sound but it wasn't as good as I had hoped or imagined. Then I did something that I never do with these surround disks.... I saw that they had included the original 1989 Bob Ludwig stereo versions and so I played the stereo (gasp!) track. Immediately, I had to turn up the volume to get it to a good listening level (Wilson's 5.1 is mastered higher) and the sound that came out was beautiful, with an almost 3D sound from just the two main stereo speakers. I actually had to verify that my AVR was outputting stereo and not an up-mixed surround sound, it wasn't. Hummm. I played the 5.1 track again and I could obviously hear the surround mix is wider and more spacious, but to me, it is missing some.... magic.
Today, I've listened to the entire disk twice and the title track several times, and think it's OK. Unfortunately, it's not the glorious, magical surround sound experience I was expecting based off of the music.... much like my feelings for The Beatles Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - it could have been so much more. I'm leaning towards an 8 for the poll, but I want to give it some more time and a few more listenings...
This jogged my memory, from listening to the stereo mixes on Saturday. There were two times, when my head turned to the speaker to my left, i.e. the seperation of the sound & had to stop myself from thinking this wasn't the 5.1 mix.
I agree with what you say about the 5.1 mix. I feel it could have been better. It's not that "WOW" that i expected / hoped for.
 

skherbeck

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I remember buying this album on cassette back in the day... I bought it after hearing “Sowing The Seeds of Love” and thought the whole album would be “Beatle-ish” based on the album cover. Well, it wasn’t, so it didn’t get a lot of repeat listens. Now, decades later, I’m really digging this in surround. I found five tracks I love, and the fidelity and mix are superb. Can’t wait to listen again when I get home tonight!
 

marpow

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I would love to vote here but having some not quite sure moments, so my vote needs to be later.
I found the 5.1 a little bright and too much. It is a very strong mix, a little on the loud side.
Listening to the stereo tracks, I'm liking the 1989 remaster.
 

madship

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This was a release I’d been hearing rumors of for years and kept saying I wasn‘t going to pick it up, despite a Steven Wilson mix. I remember not really liking the title track back in the day. This was definitely a COVID purchase. Being stuck in the house got me listening in surround much more frequently. I rearranged my room and tuned the speakers for a good listening experience. so when this was announced, I was primed for new music.

I am so glad I made this purchase. The album is a revelation to me. As I said in the thread about the album, I have no idea how this could have been contained in stereo. Content 3, Fidelity 3, surround mix 3. Overall package loses a point for not having the lyrics. With all of the printed material, why not include them? As a newbie to the album I would love to have them.
 

kap'n krunch

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can not hear all the low level voices nor the lack of cohesiveness anywhere...
brilliant album and brilliant mixes..
Will, however, detract "ahn puan"(excuse ma Francais) because of lack of lyrics anywhere in sight!!! (if this were a "babybabybaby i loveyoubaby" kind of album , well.. cool...but it ain't!)
A niner!
 

Clement

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This is a 10. Let me just get one thing out of the way before i get into specifics: with ALL that is included in the package (i'm thinking of the three CDs worth of extras, the glorious book, and the tour program[me] repro), i can't fathom deducting a point for a lack of printed lyrics.

This album came out the September of my first year teaching high school students. I spent many a late night grading papers with this playing in the background . . . truth be told, sometimes in the foreground. My daughter was born in 1996, and she and i used to dance to the title track when she was newly peripatetic. I mention these tidbits to say i know this album well, and it has brought me much bliss over the years. Perhaps, having sung along to the album hundreds of times, i am less irritated by not having lyrics included.

When i first found QQ and read of the existence of a Steven Wilson mix of this Tears for Fears masterpiece, it became one of my most-hoped-for releases. Although i can't really say there aren't things about it that i wish were better done, i can say it ultimately brings me such joy that i can't help but rate it a 10.

"Woman in Chains" kicks things off with a sonically delicious use of the surround channels (highlighting Phil Collins's driving drumming), and Oleta Adams and Roland Orzabal's vocal performances come through the lushness of production clearly and powerfully; this opening track transcendentally sets the scene for all that follows, laying the foundation for the vast spectrum (the sun and the moon, the wind and the rain) of themes filtered through a lens of social consciousness.
Adams is again featured on "Badman's Song" with continued stellar use of the surround field from Wilson, playfully integrating more deft drumming (this time from Manu Katche) and some awesome bass work (from Pino Palladino) simultaneously holding it down and driving it forward. I love the gospel-like vocal stylings and Nicky Holland's jazzy piano work ("Birdland" anyone?). So many layers in all of these songs; Wilson is having so much fun throughout!
The monumental title track, as noted in previous posts, does have some problems, but--for me--its majesty is retained as it builds to its transcendent refrain, out Beatle-ing the Beatles, taking the social/political to the spiritual, riding the rising wave of horns and strings multi-tracked everything! I can't help but believe in LOVE POWER!
Despite having sung "Kick out the style, bring back the jam" in the titular song, "Advice for the Young at Heart" reminds me of much that is wonderful about the Style Council--an elegant and driving coupling of pop and jazz with smooth and soulful (blue-eyed, that is!) vocals.
Each track switches gears from what precedes it; "Standing on the Corner of the Third World" starts with some playful world music trumpet and ultimately morphs into sophisticated jazzy pop with hints of folk and rock, highlighted by some great vocals from the dynamic duo.
Yet another sonic and tonal shift with more of Wilson's effective use of surrounds in "Swords and Knives," which couples prog elements with a driving, almost Afro-Cuban beat over which the duo's vocals again soar magically and mysteriously, playfully accompanied by trippy, proggy guitar.

A cheering crowd connects the anthemic, driving rocker "Year of the Knife" with the preceding cut(s). If you thought that what came before was lush and layered, this cut pulls out all stops: vocals, percussion, guitars, synths, strings, samples, sumbitch i think i even hear the kitchen sink! Surrounded by swirling WALLS of sound--it's ALL there: the sun and the moon, the wind and the rain roiling in the building cacophony!
And it's almost all stripped away for "Famous Last Words," which begins with Eno-esque ambiance, a distant piano, and cryptic whispers. Orzabal brings it all home with a beautiful, heartfelt vocal that is eventually joined by swelling strings. Two minutes in he sings "When the light from above/ Burns a hole straight through our love/ We will laugh/ We will sing/ When the saints go marching in/ And we will carry war--" the musical accompaniment explodes ". . . no more," and his vocals soar: "All our love and all our pain/ Will be but a tune/ The Sun and the Moon/ The Wind and the Rain/ Hand in hand we'll do and die/ Listening to the band that made us cry/ We'll have nothing to lose/ We'll have nothing to gain/ Just to stay in this real life situation/ For one last refrain," and the accompaniment fades back to ambience and a piano for the famous last words: "As the day hits the night/ We will sit by candlelight/ We will laugh/ We will sing/ When the saints go marching in/ And we will carry war no more"


The whole remains so much greater than the sum of its parts, elevating pop culture to the realm of beaux arts, healing hearts and salving souls, re-membering fragments into realized wholes. I began with a simple proclamation; i offer it again: this is a 10 Stay Surrounded, Comrades!
 
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ngv99

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This is not only a gorgeous set, but the "bang for your buck" level is sky high here. Seriously......4 CDs with more demos, b-sides and outtakes that you ever thought you'd need (but it turns out you did), and the the SW 5.1 blu-ray on top of it all.

There's only a dozen or so albums that I would say belongs in everyone's collection, and this is one of them. The surround mix does extremely well by the album. I wouldn't call it the most "aggressive" mix, but the rears are used very well and it's a solid immersive experience.

I would give the surround mix an 8.5, possibly a 9. However, when you factor in the wealth of content on the CDs, the detailed reading and beautiful packaging, and the fact that you likely can get this for under $60, this gets a resounding 10 from me. A great number of artists releasing (or planning to release) deluxe box sets like this should take notes......this is how you make your fans truly happy.
 

Strilo

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There is a ton of content, but I consider myself a TFF die hard fan and I probably won't listen to 75% of that content more than a few times. There are however a few gems that will remain in my rotation of their music.
 
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