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The Blue Meanies may very well be the reason Oppo got out of the optical player business.It boggles the mind in this era of fading disc sales and disappearing players that the software manufacturers force these limitations on a company like Oppo who was one of the highest regarded players in the commercial scene. I mean, what percentage of the public is ever going to even try to play one of these home made discs? .00000000000000000001%? Is it worth the cost of a lawyer to send an email forcing changing the firmware? So stupid.
Hey, I am all for companies protecting their product and detest people who leech off others or steal music as a way of life. But really, we're not talking mainstream here.
no, because they never got the upgrades. NOT Oppo fault. The machine will play a BD that is manufactured by the auth. company. So to say it won't play BD is unfair, it won't pay copies. Right?Oppo's customer service dept. received my test discs and got back to me yesterday, but unfortunately the news is not good. However, it is not Oppo's fault - it is the "greedy music companies" that forced them to prevent my discs from playing. Here's Oppo's response:
"We received your discs this afternoon. After analyzing them, the reason that they do not play in our 103 and 203 is because our licensing agreements prevent us from being able to play DVD-R/RW discs with BDMV content on them. This was something that we were forced to remove from our players back in the BDP-93 days. It’s possible that your LG and Sony players were made prior to this requirement, or they may have just slipped through the cracks and weren’t forced to have a firmware upgrade released to remove this type of disc compatibility.
Best Regards,
Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc. "
So, I guess the mighty Oppos don't get to push my cheapo LG off the equipment racks after all.
Snood, I have made discs with Cirlinca, too and I do not think they would play on the Oppos either for the same reason.
AudioMuxer makes an MKV file at the same time it makes the ISO and they will play via a flash drive. However, if the music gets too "complex", the transfer rate of a usb stick cannot keep up and dropouts occur. I do this method to check an individual song or upmix before burning to a disc to check that everything is the way I want it. Saves me from making a lot of DVD+R coasters. I can also hear improved quality once the ISO is burned to a disc vs. coming from a MKV.
AVCHD can now carry lossless multi-channel formats like DTS-MA and full1080p video. Ironically, not all blu-ray players can play AVCHD discs and I knew my brother and friend would want some of these so I consciously did not make them AVCHD ISOs and made blu-rays instead. D-oh!
Thread title needs changed obviously.I see the flaw in your logic. You are blaming the player saying it won't play BD discs. Yet it plays commercial BD discs fine. Then after you send the discs to OPPO, we find out that it's not BD discs but BD ISO's you created and burned to DVDR media. That's not the same thing. I can play properly authored by me and even copied commercial BD's (on BDR media NOT DVDR media) just fine on an OPPO BDP-103.
Oppo confirmed my disc ARE blu-rays. (Not sure where you got that Oppo ever said they weren't.) They said they could play them on a BDP-83 they have in their office. They also gave me the last firmware version number that could play them. Oppo said they were forced by licensees to disable the ability to play non-commercial produced blu-rays, just as they were forced by Sony to disable the ability to play SACD-Rs.
Arnold, what program / process are using to "properly" author blu-rays?
Post #13 is the reply you said you got back from OPPO. It states DVDR/W media NOT BDR media.
Audiomuxer and Tmpgenc Authoring Works are the two I use for BD authoring depending on my needs.
Yes AVCHDs will play and I could have made the discs AVCHD (and will for future discs), but did not use that format because I read in multiple places on the (darn) internet that some players can't play AVCHD. I'm not looking forward to remaking 50 - 60 projects again.Audiomuxer has the option for AVC-HD which is a much more compatible format as the OP probably knows. Also you could simply burn the Blu-ray to an actual Blu-ray disc which is also very compatible. Single layer discs are cheap.
I'm thinking maybe the forum title needs to be change to "Surround Hardware SACD/DVD-A Universal*Thread title needs changed obviously.
Update: I acquired a BDP-93 with what OPPO said was the last firmware that can play Blu-ray ISOs. I am happy to report that indeed it does plus it also plays SACD-Rs. (The OPPO customer service rep said he did not think it would.) So, Snood (and anyone else who wants to be able to play those formats), the firmware you want to be sure an OPPO 93 has is BDP9X-74-0908 (or before). I believe the BDP-93 was the last OPPO to have this capability.
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