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Black Jazz catalog finally available on CD!

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Reviving this thread to see if anyone can confirm whether the first six titles in the Black Jazz catalog are in fact QS-encoded. (It seems pretty clear that most of the subsequent ones are, except for a couple at the tail end of the label's run.)

All the jacket photos and most of the catalog numbers I've been able to find on the web list them as BJ/1 through BJ/6, and the album jackets do not sport the QS logo or make any mention of quad compatibility. (Subsequent titles, numbered BJQD/7 forward, do feature the QS logo.) The 2005 P-Vine and 2012-13 Snow Dog CD reissues seem to replicate the LP jackets, so that's no help.

Ovation's ad in this August 1973 issue of Billboard (page 41), touting their commitment to QS, lists the entire Black Jazz run up to that point--1 through 16--and gives all of them BJQD prefixes. But the first six titles were actually first released in 1971, which would have been the dawn of the QS era, no? An online Walter Bishop Jr. discography claims that Coral Keys was issued as both BJ/2 (stereo) and BJQD/2 (quad-compatible)--which suggests, perhaps, that Black Jazz 1 through 6 were initially released in stereo, then later "upgraded" to quad. But again, I've yet to see any physical evidence of the latter.
 
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Thanks for that link. Interesting that the label claims quad-compatible stereo, but not the jacket. Maybe the first six Black Jazz titles (from 1971) were early experiments with "Regular Matrix" technology, before they decided to pay Sansui to use the QS logo?
I think in the case of infant eyes that during a repress they grabbed the wrong label and the 1st six titles are stereo only
 

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I think in the case of infant eyes that during a repress they grabbed the wrong label and the 1st six titles are stereo only
Interesting. That would still leave Dick Schory's (possibly erroneous) claim in Billboard to account for.

If the first six do (or did once) exist in separate stereo and QS versions, then I wonder which masters were made available to P-Vine and Snow Dog for their CD reissues? A Sansui or SurroundMaster might make it sound good regardless, but is there a definitive way of telling whether a stereo signal is QS-encoded through waveform analysis?
 

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Interesting. That would still leave Dick Schory's (possibly erroneous) claim in Billboard to account for.

If the first six do (or did once) exist in separate stereo and QS versions, then I wonder which masters were made available to P-Vine and Snow Dog for their CD reissues? A Sansui or SurroundMaster might make it sound good regardless, but is there a definitive way of telling whether a stereo signal is QS-encoded through waveform analysis?
I have seen many erroneous claims in billboard about quad. Before you go down the rabbit hole, see if you can find any originally in quad. You will not. 1 thru 6 were too early and not remixed.
 
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