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Has anyone managed to get gapless Atmos playback on their Oppo 103 via a USB stick? I’m not sure it plays MKV files via a CUE file, or at least I can’t get it to work!
 
I doubt the cue file will work. Is there an Atmos decoder in the chain somewhere?
Yes, am bitstreaming the files from the 103 to my Atmos AVR. Works fine for Atmos, except when needing gapless playback (Abbey Road in this instance).
 
Has anyone managed to get gapless Atmos playback on their Oppo 103 via a USB stick? I’m not sure it plays MKV files via a CUE file, or at least I can’t get it to work!
Cue files work fine with .mka files but if your encodes contain audio and video, you'll need to create your .mkv files with regular 'ogm style' text based chapters. Which look like this: -
Code:
CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=Come Together
CHAPTER02=00:04:20.199
CHAPTER02NAME=Something
CHAPTER03=00:07:22.425
CHAPTER03NAME=Maxwell's Silver Hammer
CHAPTER04=00:10:50.399
CHAPTER04NAME=Oh! Darling
CHAPTER05=00:14:17.545
CHAPTER05NAME=Octopus's Garden
CHAPTER06=00:17:08.345
CHAPTER06NAME=I Want You (She's So Heavy)
CHAPTER07=00:24:55.704
CHAPTER07NAME=Here Comes The Sun
CHAPTER08=00:28:01.412
CHAPTER08NAME=Because
CHAPTER09=00:30:47.026
CHAPTER09NAME=You Never Give Me Your Money
CHAPTER10=00:34:49.691
CHAPTER10NAME=Sun King
CHAPTER11=00:37:16.026
CHAPTER11NAME=Mean Mr Mustard
CHAPTER12=00:38:22.492
CHAPTER12NAME=Polythene Pam
CHAPTER13=00:39:35.292
CHAPTER13NAME=She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
CHAPTER14=00:41:34.106
CHAPTER14NAME=Golden Slumbers
CHAPTER15=00:43:05.545
CHAPTER15NAME=Carry That Weight
CHAPTER16=00:44:41.984
CHAPTER16NAME=The End
CHAPTER17=00:47:03.891
CHAPTER17NAME=Her Majesty
EDIT: You can add regular 'ogm style' text based chapters to your existing .mkv files using MKVToolNIX.

After dropping your .mkv file into the 'input' area of the GUI, click on the 'output' tab and select 'Chapter file' and navigate to where your new chapter.txt file is located. The rest of the steps should be straight forward...

Cheers
 
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Cue files work fine with .mka files but if your encodes contain audio and video, you'll need to create your .mkv files with regular 'ogm style' text based chapters. Which look like this: -
Code:
CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=Come Together
CHAPTER02=00:04:20.199
CHAPTER02NAME=Something
CHAPTER03=00:07:22.425
CHAPTER03NAME=Maxwell's Silver Hammer
CHAPTER04=00:10:50.399
CHAPTER04NAME=Oh! Darling
CHAPTER05=00:14:17.545
CHAPTER05NAME=Octopus's Garden
CHAPTER06=00:17:08.345
CHAPTER06NAME=I Want You (She's So Heavy)
CHAPTER07=00:24:55.704
CHAPTER07NAME=Here Comes The Sun
CHAPTER08=00:28:01.412
CHAPTER08NAME=Because
CHAPTER09=00:30:47.026
CHAPTER09NAME=You Never Give Me Your Money
CHAPTER10=00:34:49.691
CHAPTER10NAME=Sun King
CHAPTER11=00:37:16.026
CHAPTER11NAME=Mean Mr Mustard
CHAPTER12=00:38:22.492
CHAPTER12NAME=Polythene Pam
CHAPTER13=00:39:35.292
CHAPTER13NAME=She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
CHAPTER14=00:41:34.106
CHAPTER14NAME=Golden Slumbers
CHAPTER15=00:43:05.545
CHAPTER15NAME=Carry That Weight
CHAPTER16=00:44:41.984
CHAPTER16NAME=The End
CHAPTER17=00:47:03.891
CHAPTER17NAME=Her Majesty
Thanks. I’ll have another go tomorrow and see if I can crack it. At least I now know it is possible with the Oppo via USB, so that’s very helpful.
 
I doubt a 7.1 FLAC is ‘much smaller’ than a mka or m4a file. Smaller but not much smaller.

The benefit of having a proper Atmos file for future immersive playback outweighs the smaller file size IMO.
Indeed...

And wouldn't the native Atmos bitstream fold down enough to make a convincing sounding 7.1 channel only file. Or is it that your non Atmos system can't handle native bitstreams?
 
Reminder: a 7.1 flac file ripped from an Atmos disc lacks the metadata for Atmos. The only way to maintain the Atmos mix is to rip to mkv, mka or m4a.
I was wondering about the 7.1 data. I believe the data used in the atmos mix is included or "Bedded" in the 7.1 mix (Or in some cases a 5.1Mix). The Atmos process then removes the relevent data being used for the Atmos derived channels, directing those "removed" audio sound to their respective speakers.
The 5.1 or 7.1 original mix I am led to believe includes all the original recording information when played in this basic 7.1 format.
I use 7.1 (5.1) analogue only and do not have Atmos decoders. I use multichannel ATMOS, file ripped by DVD AE, through ROON to Exasound 7.1 then 8 analogue cables attached to Bryston SP3 through to the 8 speakers..
Can you confirm my thoughts on the ATMOS ripped to 7.1? Thanks
 
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I doubt a 7.1 FLAC is ‘much smaller’ than a mka or m4a file. Smaller but not much smaller.

The benefit of having a proper Atmos file for future immersive playback outweighs the smaller file size IMO.
Agreed, I would never give up the Atmos mkv files I store, the 7.1 flacs are in addition to.
 
Cue files work fine with .mka files but if your encodes contain audio and video, you'll need to create your .mkv files with regular 'ogm style' text based chapters. Which look like this: -
Code:
CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=Come Together
CHAPTER02=00:04:20.199
CHAPTER02NAME=Something
CHAPTER03=00:07:22.425
CHAPTER03NAME=Maxwell's Silver Hammer
CHAPTER04=00:10:50.399
CHAPTER04NAME=Oh! Darling
CHAPTER05=00:14:17.545
CHAPTER05NAME=Octopus's Garden
CHAPTER06=00:17:08.345
CHAPTER06NAME=I Want You (She's So Heavy)
CHAPTER07=00:24:55.704
CHAPTER07NAME=Here Comes The Sun
CHAPTER08=00:28:01.412
CHAPTER08NAME=Because
CHAPTER09=00:30:47.026
CHAPTER09NAME=You Never Give Me Your Money
CHAPTER10=00:34:49.691
CHAPTER10NAME=Sun King
CHAPTER11=00:37:16.026
CHAPTER11NAME=Mean Mr Mustard
CHAPTER12=00:38:22.492
CHAPTER12NAME=Polythene Pam
CHAPTER13=00:39:35.292
CHAPTER13NAME=She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
CHAPTER14=00:41:34.106
CHAPTER14NAME=Golden Slumbers
CHAPTER15=00:43:05.545
CHAPTER15NAME=Carry That Weight
CHAPTER16=00:44:41.984
CHAPTER16NAME=The End
CHAPTER17=00:47:03.891
CHAPTER17NAME=Her Majesty
EDIT: You can add regular 'ogm style' text based chapters to your existing .mkv files using MKVToolNIX.

After dropping your .mkv file into the 'input' area of the GUI, click on the 'output' tab and select 'Chapter file' and navigate to where your new chapter.txt file is located. The rest of the steps should be straight forward...

Cheers
Have been playing around with this today and did get it to work gapless with an .mka file + cue, but it;'s been really flaky and kept crashing the Oppo.

This was the process I used:
1 - Rip BD with Make MKV to create a "master" mkv file
2 - Use MKVToolNix to create a single .mka file with chapters
3 - Input the single .mka file into MMH and use Chapter Editor to name each chapter with the song title etc
4 - Saved a .cue file using Chapter Editor
5 - transferred to USB stick to play in Oppo

This worked and Atmos played gapless although it took an age for the file to start playing and it would only start from the beginning, although you could then use the remote to navigate forward to any specific song. It didn't always play though and I sometimes had to restatr the Oppo.

If anyone could point me in the right direction as to what I'm doing wrong I'd be very grateful!

Thanks
 
I was wondering about the 7.1 data. I believe the data used in the atmos mix is included or "Bedded" in the 7.1 mix (Or in some cases a 5.1Mix). The Atmos process then removes the relevent data being used for the Atmos derived channels, directing those "removed" audio sound to their respective speakers.
The 5.1 or 7.1 original mix I am led to believe includes all the original recording information when played in this basic 7.1 format.
I use 7.1 (5.1) analogue only and do not have Atmos decoders. I use multichannel ATMOS, file ripped by DVD AE, through ROON to Exasound 7.1 then 8 analogue cables attached to Bryston SP3 through to the 8 speakers..
Can you confirm my thoughts on the ATMOS ripped to 7.1? Thanks
Everything you say about Atmos processing is true. It's all there. But what @HomerJAU said above still applies, if you are ripping with DVDAE you are probably saving as FLAC. Your rips will not be functional Atmos files if/when you become Atmos capable in the future. If your Exasound will accept MKV/MKA, ripping to those formats will future proof it.
 
Everything you say about Atmos processing is true. It's all there. But what @HomerJAU said above still applies, if you are ripping with DVDAE you are probably saving as FLAC. Your rips will not be functional Atmos files if/when you become Atmos capable in the future. If your Exasound will accept MKV/MKA, ripping to those formats will future proof it.
Thanks for confirmation. Exasound Analogue in only. Keeping original DVD Media for another ATMOS day! Can then rip to MKV/A.
 
If anyone could point me in the right direction as to what I'm doing wrong I'd be very grateful!

Thanks
I've not used my OPPO BDP-103 for playing audio files for quite a while but when I did I primarily played music with .cue sheet files. And rarely had any issues.

Perhaps the players 'persistent storage' needs clearing...
 
Have been playing around with this today and did get it to work gapless with an .mka file + cue, but it;'s been really flaky and kept crashing the Oppo.

This was the process I used:
1 - Rip BD with Make MKV to create a "master" mkv file
2 - Use MKVToolNix to create a single .mka file with chapters
3 - Input the single .mka file into MMH and use Chapter Editor to name each chapter with the song title etc
4 - Saved a .cue file using Chapter Editor
5 - transferred to USB stick to play in Oppo

This worked and Atmos played gapless although it took an age for the file to start playing and it would only start from the beginning, although you could then use the remote to navigate forward to any specific song. It didn't always play though and I sometimes had to restatr the Oppo.

If anyone could point me in the right direction as to what I'm doing wrong I'd be very grateful!

Thanks
What happens if you don't break it into chapters?
 
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