Tim Bowness "Stupid Things That Mean The World" to include 5.1 download

[DuncanS]

When I e-mailed to ask how to get the 5.1 download that came with the preorder I did say more 5.1 please! The email with the 5.1 link did suggest where to look to find out how to turn the .flac into a playable disc, so they do know thats what a lot of people want.

The kind folks at Burning Shed replied to my email. The 5.1 mix was an enticement for the pre-order and is at the moment not available.
Pete from Shed followed that up by writing "We are hoping to sell the 5.1 mix as a separate item shortly".

So let's cut them a little slack - Maybe they didn't think it through well but there was no malicious intent.
If you are interested in the 5.1 mix and you missed the pre-order like me, I suggest you send a kind request to them showing your purchase interest.

Greg

 

[fredblue]

You are not alone!Long live discs!

Viva La Disco!!! :wave :banana: (Something like that anyway.. )

 

[fredblue]

When I e-mailed to ask how to get the 5.1 download that came with the preorder I did say more 5.1 please! The email with the 5.1 link did suggest where to look to find out how to turn the .flac into a playable disc, so they do know thats what a lot of people want.

Oh dear! I missed that bit! I'm like the "iams cat", he can't read either! :kitty:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ntBJaiNBbHo

 

[SMS]

Normally I convert 5.1 flac files to AVCHD using AudioMuxer, which can then be played on my Oppo 83SE from a USB drive. However, AudioMuxer says it is unable to export AVCHD unless the sample rate is 48k or 96k. These files are 44.1k. Does anyone know what the best solution would be? To up-sample to 48k? If so, how? Any other suggestion to play these on the Oppo 83/83SE?

Thanks!

 

[SMS]

Normally I convert 5.1 flac files to AVCHD using AudioMuxer, which can then be played on my Oppo 83SE from a USB drive. However, AudioMuxer says it is unable to export AVCHD unless the sample rate is 48k or 96k. These files are 44.1k. Does anyone know what the best solution would be? To up-sample to 48k? If so, how? Any other suggestion to play these on the Oppo 83/83SE?

Thanks!

I converted from 44.1k to 48k using AudioMuxer, and then the export to AVCHD worked fine. I used the SSRC resampling method, for no other reason than it was the default. I am not sure if the conversion to 48k impacted the fidelity or not. It still sounded pretty decent to me. If anyone has a suggestion to maximize the sound quality, please let me know.

The music and mix are both very good, IMO, but I only gave it a single listen. Hopefully a poll can be created for this album/mix, even though it is a digital-only release.

 

[peterzach]

Well I messed up and didn't understand that the 5.1 was only available for the preorder.
So I posted on Tim's Facebook and got a reply from him:

My post: Why was the 5.1 flac only for preorder as I did not get my order in now I can't get the 5.1, that does not make sense and you have lost a order for this.

Tim Bowness reply: The record company - Inside Out - were happy for Burning Shed (who host Tim's official store) to offer the 5.1 as a pre-order incentive, but unfortunately Burning Shed are not authorised to sell the download separately, as Inside Out’s digital arrangements are with other providers. However, we are looking into ways that the 5.1 can become available again. The 5.1 wasn’t finished in time for the release of Stupid Things That Mean The World, hence it not being available on the physical release.

 

[rtbluray]

At least that's a pretty good explanation of why the 5.1 mix wasn't included in the physical edition to begin with.
I'm not really that into surround downloads, so I hope that one day the mix will be made available in a physical edition so I can get my hands on it! (Literally!)

 

[Robert van Diggele]

hopefully it will be available as a stand alone download.

It would be interesting to see the number of downloads it had so far, compared to the number of pre-orders, to see if there is enough interest in the 5.1.

 

[peterzach]

So those that have the 5.1 flac, is this worth hunting down once its available or is it just a average 5.1 in the discreet department?
Also wondering what the replay factor is like.

I have sent another email to Burning Shed to see if any new information on the 5.1 for this one.
Will post once I get a reply.

 

[Suffolk David]

Well I messed up and didn't understand that the 5.1 was only available for the preorder.
So I posted on Tim's Facebook and got a reply from him:

My post: Why was the 5.1 flac only for preorder as I did not get my order in now I can't get the 5.1, that does not make sense and you have lost a order for this.

Tim Bowness reply: The record company - Inside Out - were happy for Burning Shed (who host Tim's official store) to offer the 5.1 as a pre-order incentive, but unfortunately Burning Shed are not authorised to sell the download separately, as Inside Out’s digital arrangements are with other providers. However, we are looking into ways that the 5.1 can become available again. The 5.1 wasn’t finished in time for the release of Stupid Things That Mean The World, hence it not being available on the physical release.

Let's hope this isn't a trend as Burning Shed are doing the same 'pre-order incentive' on Bruce Soord's new album, i.e. a 5.1 FLAC download on the day of release.

Interestingly the reason for no physical release is different to the one for Tim's, as in his own thread on QQ Bruce states it is purely down to cost [emoji53]


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[Neil Palfreyman]

So those that have the 5.1 flac, is this worth hunting down once its available or is it just a average 5.1 in the discreet department?
Also wondering what the replay factor is like.

I have sent another email to Burning Shed to see if any new information on the 5.1 for this one.
Will post once I get a reply.

Trying not to be biased (I play-tested it for Bruce) I would say it's well worth having and I really hope Burning Shed/Kscope find a way of making it more readily available. It's fully discrete, very well balanced and treats Tims material very tastefully. If you like the no-man 5.1 releases you would certainly like this little gem.

 

[Robert van Diggele]

Good news Neil.

 

[DuncanS]

So those that have the 5.1 flac, is this worth hunting down once its available or is it just a average 5.1 in the discreet department?
Also wondering what the replay factor is like.

I have sent another email to Burning Shed to see if any new information on the 5.1 for this one.
Will post once I get a reply.

Its a good mix, fits the music very well.

 

[user 1679]

It's fully discrete, very well balanced and treats Tims material very tastefully. If you like the no-man 5.1 releases you would certainly like this little gem.

I agree - that sums it up very well in my opinion.

 

[Robert van Diggele]

Good news Neil.

ha, see now that you were talking about Tim Bowness his album, not Bruce his upcoming solo album.

 

[Fourplay]

The email with the 5.1 link did suggest where to look to find out how to turn the .flac into a playable disc...

I am curious to know where they sent you for info on how to make this flac into a disc. Can you please post that part of their email here if you still have it?

 

[user 1679]

They did not suggest any one specific site, merely said:

Please note - We cannot provide any support for this format.

We advise putting ‘How to burn surround audio flac?’ into a search engine. This will point to various discussion groups and specialist sites that will be able to help you if you are new to FLAC.

 

[peterzach]

Well here's message I got back from Lisa:

"Hi Peter,

Im afraid the situation is the same.

Inside Out will not allow us to sell the download and it was a special offer with pre-ordered copies.

There is no physical release of the 5.1 mix.

If that changes we will list the information in our newsletter.

Sorry,

Lisa"

Thanks for those of you letting me know how this sounds in 5.1, guess have to wait a while tell they can release this, who knows when that will be.
The decisions that get made from different record labels sure boggles the mind.
Here's a 5.1, would like to order and now can't, just silly.

 

[Neil Palfreyman]

ha, see now that you were talking about Tim Bowness his album, not Bruce his upcoming solo album.

With any luck (timing, really) I should get to playtest that one too. I have already heard the two channel (a lot) and it's a superb album. I have very high hopes for the 5.1

 

[DoctorO]

Well here's message I got back from Lisa:

"Hi Peter,

Im afraid the situation is the same.

Inside Out will not allow us to sell the download and it was a special offer with pre-ordered copies.

There is no physical release of the 5.1 mix.

If that changes we will list the information in our newsletter.

Sorry,

Lisa"

Thanks for those of you letting me know how this sounds in 5.1, guess have to wait a while tell they can release this, who knows when that will be.
The decisions that get made from different record labels sure boggles the mind.
Here's a 5.1, would like to order and now can't, just silly.

How frustrating this is! I am new to this music, after just discovering Porcupine Tree this year and starting to branch out to No Man. But this aggravating strategy with the 5.1 mix is a turn-off for buying this album for me.