Listening to Now (In Dolby Atmos)

[marcb]

I’ve been wondering about exactly this. Why is this “not a good thing for real surround lovers?”

I’m just speculating.

Because they could just see all of the real surround stuff as just a carrot. But if the carrot ultimately costs more money than it generates plays and subscriptions, Apple could gradually or suddenly lose interest in supporting real atmos mixes. It’s not as though the plug hasn’t been pulled on surround by the powers that be before. In fact, when hasn’t it to a large degree?

 

[Sal1950]

I’m just speculating.

Because they could just see all of the real surround stuff as just a carrot. But if the carrot ultimately costs more money than it generates plays and subscriptions, Apple could gradually or suddenly lose interest in supporting real atmos mixes. It’s not as though the plug hasn’t been pulled on surround by the powers that be before. In fact, when hasn’t it to a large degree?

Hush your mouth!

 

[elee532]

So, is the Atmos mix for headphones distinct from a real Atmos mix? That is, is it possible to create an Atmos mix for headphones without at the same time creating a “real” Atmos mix? If so, then I share your worry!

 

[Cheezmo]

I don’t think Apple considers Dolby Audio to be “Spatial Audio”. I assuming this is because Apple’s real focus with “Spatial Audio” is the headphone thing - and unfortunately real surround is just a byproduct of that (which is not a good thing for the long run for real surround lovers IMO).

Of course they do. The semantics are really difficult but...

Spatial Audio is Apple's term for any surround sound effect they can reproduce on their devices. The sources for that are currently Dolby Atmos and Dolby Audio but it leaves the door open for any sources.

If you look on their curated Spatial Audio section in Apple Music there are many Dolby Audio releases.

 

[Sal1950]

If you look on their curated Spatial Audio section in Apple Music there are many Dolby Audio releases.

I was under the impression that Dolby Audio was 5/7.1 ch files under a Atmos umbrella.
Yes / No ?

 

[Cheezmo]

No, S

I was under the impression that Dolby Audio was 5/7.1 ch files under a Atmos umbrella.
Yes / No ?

No, Dolby Audio is 5.1 (although many of the releases are qued/4.0, silent center/LFE). They do not display as Dolby Atmos on the receiver, just 5.1.

 

[Sal1950]

No, Dolby Audio is 5.1 (although many of the releases are qued/4.0, silent center/LFE). They do not display as Dolby Atmos on the receiver, just 5.1.

Thanks, that's just as well if not better. Going back a year or less I didn't think there was much if any hope for mch streaming except for the movies.
I had a number of discussions with the guy from Qobuz over on Computer Audiophile/Style about the half dozen 5.1 files they put up 2 years ago. Both myself and Kal leaned on him a bit but we couldn't get anything like some positive feedback from them. The only way to access them was with a Roon media server and no interest was given on going forward with the "experiment".
We need to support Apple specially, they're the ones who have really gone the whole hog into this thing. I reached out and bought a new Apple TV 4k to get fully on board with their best full streaming path. If we don't support them, they aren't going to support us in the long run. Vote with your wallet.

 

[channelar]

Apple is making me listen to a much wider variety of music/artists

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/the-walls-are-way-too-thin-ep/1575561183

Same here. I like this release a lot. I find myself going through some of the Apple Playliists to see if there anything memorable new each week.

 

[MrSmithers]

Motown with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra (A Symphony Of Soul)

Apple Music - Motown with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra (A Symphony Of Soul)
Tidal - Motown with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra (A Symphony Of Soul)

Interesting idea but doesn't seem that adventurous unfortunately. Some of the originals are in Atmos too with great mixes...

 

[MrSmithers]

Sting - The Bridge (13 songs)
Mix by Robert Orton
https://tidal.com/album/205237900

nice one!
that same Sting album in Atmos on Apple Music UK;

The Bridge (Deluxe) by Sting

Yeah really liking this new Sting album. Nice music/mix...

 

[César]

Krauss&Plant album is simply stunning, at least in terms of music. Too early to have an opinion on the mix

 

[fredblue]

looks like the upcoming Years & Years album will be in Atmos

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/starstruck/1586653480?i=1586653485

 

[mrcond]

Krauss&Plant album is simply stunning, at least in terms of music. Too early to have an opinion on the mix

I enjoyed both the music and the mix on the first 3 pre-release tracks and am looking forward to giving it a full listen later today or over the weekend. Despite not being "heavy" music, it has a weight / depth to it.

 

[fredblue]

next year's alt-J record will also be in Atmos

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/u-me/1584828580?i=1584828601

 

[fredblue]

forthcoming Bastille album's in Atmos

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/give-me-the-future/1580064966

 

[fredblue]

bloody hell, even Westlife are getting in on the act with Atmos!!

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/starlight/1588737020?i=1588737024

 

[fredblue]

Gary Barlow's Christmas album's in Atmos

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/the-dream-of-christmas-deluxe/1590871215

 

[fredblue]

in January, Amber Mark's LP will be in Atmos

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/three-dimensions-deep/1586330404

 

[fredblue]

Aurora in Atmos..

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/the-gods-we-can-touch/1588084425

 

[fredblue]

new Decca in Spatial Audio playlist! 56 tracks, 3 & 1/2 hours from the Decca vault all in Surround!

https://music.apple.com/gb/playlist...ial-audio/pl.3b61c71315b04faa8d9608da67bb57c4