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I'm not familiar with Mr. Boutin, but he certainly offers up a provocative article on MSN Slate this week.

See http://slate.msn.com/id/2110495/ for a read of his article titled "HD-DVD Must Die"

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HD-DVD Must Die
Sony's Blu-ray is the better next-generation DVD.
By Paul Boutin
Posted Wednesday, Dec. 8, 2004, at 11:16 AM PT

Universal, Paramount, New Line Cinema, and Warner Bros. just announced that, starting next year, they'll ship high-definition movies on new high-capacity disks called HD-DVDs. The catch: You'll need to buy a new player to watch them. (Some disks, like the prototypes announced today, may also play on your current player, but in low-resolution mode.) Moreover, lots of computer makers and two other big studios, 20th Century Fox and Sony Pictures, have already pledged to adopt the Blu-ray format, which is expected to debut around the same time (and will also require a new player).

Tech writers are bracing for a VHS vs. Betamax-style format war, with consumers forced to choose sides or buy two separate, incompatible players. Last week's stumping for HD-DVD, which is sponsored by Toshiba and NEC, can only be read as a pre-emptive effort to make Sony's Blu-ray look like Betamax 2.0—a technology that's doomed to fail because all the movies you want will only be available on its competitor. If Hollywood makes that story come true, consumers won't get a happy ending. There's only one real difference between these next-generation DVDs and today's models: storage capacity. The best format, then, is simply the one with the most possible storage space. By all accounts, that's Blu-ray.

This comparison chart shows that HD-DVD and Blu-ray disks will be pretty similar. Both should be able to fit an HD movie onto one side of one disk, and both HD-DVD and Blu-ray players will play your old DVDs. As the New York Times explained last spring, the only significant difference is in the coating. Blu-ray disks have a coating that's one-sixth the thickness of the outside layer of a DVD or an HD-DVD. Blu-ray's data layers are thus closer to the surface, allowing the laser in a Blu-ray player to read data that's encoded with smaller markings. Since the markings are smaller, more of them—and, consequently, more data—can be packed onto a single layer. Sony also expects to boost the number of data layers from two to four by 2007 and ultimately to eight. Despite all the noise from Sony, Toshiba has been conspicuously quiet about adding more layers to HD-DVDs down the road. Summary: Blu-ray disks can store more data on each layer and will likely have more layers of data than HD-DVDs.

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While HD-DVD backers tout 30-gigabyte, dual-layer disks, Sony already has a 50-gig, dual-layer model and has an eight-layer, 200-gig superdisk in development. So, why do so many Hollywood studios want their HD-DVD? Probably because they're a whole lot cheaper to manufacture. Earlier this year, some Taiwanese disk makers told PC World that prerecorded HD-DVDs will be cheaper to churn out than Blu-ray disks. Since HD-DVDs have the same size layers as today's disks, existing DVD factories can start churning out HD-DVDs without much retooling. But Blu-ray disks, with their thicker data layers, won't be so easy to make. New, expensive assembly lines will have to be built—that's the kind of expense that cuts down profit margins.

It's pretty obvious that HD-DVD isn't being rolled out to benefit high-definition-deprived viewers. Consider that HD-DVD reps told the Times that, rather than increase capacity, they're "considering more efficient software compression" to squeeze longer high-def movies onto their disks. Isn't the whole point of these new disks that they'll accommodate high-definition formats without stripping them of their high resolution?

The good news is that if HD-DVD does turn out to be a low-capacity sham, Hollywood probably won't be able to force it down our throats. DVDs aren't just for movies anymore: Whichever disk wins out will almost certainly become the standard for new computers, game consoles, and other gadgets, just as CD and DVD drives did. It's unlikely that computer users—or computer manufacturers—will settle for a medium that stores 30 gigs of data rather than 200 because it saves Warner Bros. a little money.

No matter which side wins, this format war isn't going to change how we live. The VCR upended the relationship between video producers and consumers, who could suddenly watch what they wanted, whenever they felt like it. All HD-DVD and Blu-ray do is pack more video onto an existing medium at a time when we're discovering the joys of broadband connections, downloadable video, and hard drives big enough to hold a small movie library. If Sony, Toshiba, and the movie studios go to war, they might find that by the time it's over, we won't care about shiny silver disks at all.

Paul Boutin is a Silicon Valley writer who spent 15 years as a software engineer and manager.
 
Mr Boutin seems to be ignoring the Audio capabilities of HD-DVD.
Blu Ray has DTS HD - Vapourware - as it's official Lossless Audio codec. And it is not mandatory, but optional, which means not included in cheaper players.
HD-DVD has Dolby Digital/DTS/MLP Stereo/MLP Multichannel as mandatory, and DTS HD as optional.
So - HD-DVD will play existing DVD-A and DVD-V, whereas Blu Ray will not.

Sony strike again.
 
Sony's Blu-ray is the better next-generation DVD.
By Paul Boutin
Posted Wednesday, Dec. 8, 2004, at 11:16 AM PT

"It's pretty obvious that HD-DVD isn't being rolled out to benefit high-definition-deprived viewers. Consider that HD-DVD reps told the Times that, rather than increase capacity, they're "considering more efficient software compression" to squeeze longer high-def movies onto their disks. Isn't the whole point of these new disks that they'll accommodate high-definition formats without stripping them of their high resolution?"

But is this part what actually happened? I thought that picture quality was exactly the same as Blu-Ray at 1080p and that 30 Gig was more than enough to create 1080p discs. Or no... I've read that a 50 gig HD-DVD disc was invented but hasn't been approved for use yet.

Also, where are these HDTV set's going in the future... 2160p or 4320p with higher bit rate / kHz rates for sound, thus the need for more capacity on discs?
 
I believe the releases are on par between both formats; which I read as HD-DVD holding back Blu-Ray.

I've read that 1440P is the next thing in the bushes in a few years.
 
I seem to recall a time back then when the two sides ALMOST came together. There might be a post here at QQ about that somewhere.

To bad they did not. Quite frankly, as someone with both formats (who earlier proclaimed that he would buy neither :D), the picture and sound quality of both is about the same. At this point, today, the HD-DVD discs and players are actually more advanced with respect to menus, extras, PIP and other bells and whistles that don't mean a thing to 95% of buyers. By next Christmas, Blu-Ray discs and players will do all of this stuff anyway.

In reality, one format would have been a much better way to go in the long run. However, now that they're both here, to me it's not that big of a deal for both to survive. As I have stated before, you can buy 2 players for less than we've spent on our initial SACD or our initial DVD-A players back in 1999/2000. So what's the big deal?
 
I seem to recall a time back then when the two sides ALMOST came together. There might be a post here at QQ about that somewhere.
Here are those threads: "Compromise in the works" and
here the very optimistic titled "common sense prevails" after which it also became clear that
there wouldn't be combo drives for a while
As I have stated before, you can buy 2 players for less than we've spent on our initial SACD or our initial DVD-A players back in 1999/2000. So what's the big deal?
having a stack of different players and connecting them all for optimal playback isn't an ideal solution.
 
having a stack of different players and connecting them all for optimal playback isn't an ideal solution.

Actually, it's not bad at all. I have my A35 sitting on top of my BD30, each having only one cable (HDMI) going from it to the receiver. Very 'neat, sweet and petite" you might say. It's a far cry from the days of 6+ analog cables for DVD-A, then 6+ analog cables for SACD (in the days before universal players).

If you notice, they are just about as tall as the 3910 (silver unit to the lower left), so they really don't take up much space either.
 

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Actually, it's not bad at all. I have my A35 and BD30 sitting on top of each other, each having only one cable (HDMI) going from it to the receiver. Very 'neat, sweet and petite" you might say. It's a far cry from the days of 6+ analog cables for DVD-A, then 6+ analog cables for SACD (in the days before universal players).

If you notice, they are just about as tall as the 3910 (silver unit to the left), so they really don't take up much space either.

Jon:

What brand of shelving/rack are you using. From what I can see see in the picture you posted it looks very clean and tidy.

Justin
 
Thanks Justin! I looks clean and tidy until you peek at the back! :D

It's a BDI. It wasn't cheap, but it looks pretty good. In fact, the stand cost more than both the HD-DVD player and the Blu-Ray player COMBINED!!! :eek:

Sort of an indication of how relatively cheap the HD players are. Think about this: the first SACD players were $2K and didn't do multichannel. The first DVD-Audio players were well over $1K. Puts things in perspective. :mad:@:

http://www.bdiusa.com/avfurniture/cielo_9329.shtml
 
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