quadrifonico
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hi there my copy of The Dave Brubeck Quartet SACD Time Out 5099706512257 plays basically as a weird double mono, my player does not detect any multichannel content...anybody else with this issue? thanks
The Dave Brubeck Quartet SACD Time Out 5099706512257
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There's apparently some scam copies out there which are regular CDs. See the comment listed in this discogs post: https://www.discogs.com/release/1399486-The-Dave-Brubeck-Quartet-Time-Out
JediJoker
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The Analogue Productions SACD is also guaranteed to have functioning multichannel, as well as an arguably better mastering of the stereo mix:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4194748-The-Dave-Brubeck-Quartet-Time-Out
https://www.discogs.com/release/22441135-The-Dave-Brubeck-Quartet-Time-Out
https://www.discogs.com/release/4194748-The-Dave-Brubeck-Quartet-Time-Out
https://www.discogs.com/release/22441135-The-Dave-Brubeck-Quartet-Time-Out
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I have both but the AP multichannel SACD duplicates the oriiginal SONY remix.
BTW, Time Out was originally a three channel stereo recording but AFAIK was never released in that format!
quadrifonico
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i checked, indeed mine is silver
...but i remember my player seeing it as a SACD, not CD; you can confirm the "genuine copies" play as 5.1? with LFE and rears (i am asking because as 4-earredwonder just said i have a memory of it sounding like a 3 channel)? in any case i want to solve this mistery and listen to that disc as soon as i have time and i will update you here; by the way thanks to you all replying
...but i remember my player seeing it as a SACD, not CD; you can confirm the "genuine copies" play as 5.1? with LFE and rears (i am asking because as 4-earredwonder just said i have a memory of it sounding like a 3 channel)? in any case i want to solve this mistery and listen to that disc as soon as i have time and i will update you here; by the way thanks to you all replying
quadrifonico
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wait just now i found something, check this link
https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/83633/Dave_Brubeck_Quartet-Time_Out-Hybrid_Multichannel_SACD
check the comments please, sounds like my copy is that sort of 3 channel mix
https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/83633/Dave_Brubeck_Quartet-Time_Out-Hybrid_Multichannel_SACD
check the comments please, sounds like my copy is that sort of 3 channel mix
Mr. Afternoon
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Time Out was an early stereo record...I believe it was mixed when stereo was still meant to be 3 channels. From what I remember correctly, the SACD multichannel is just a transfer of that 3-channel mix. Miles Davis' Kind of Blue has the same treatment on SACD.
If your disc is silver, it cannot be the version with the 3-channel mix. It either has to be the 1999/2000 stereo-only SACD, or a CD. The multichannel mix was only released on Hybrid SACD, which would appear golden from the data layer.
It would be helpful if you posted the matrix runouts on the actual disc...
If your disc is silver, it cannot be the version with the 3-channel mix. It either has to be the 1999/2000 stereo-only SACD, or a CD. The multichannel mix was only released on Hybrid SACD, which would appear golden from the data layer.
It would be helpful if you posted the matrix runouts on the actual disc...
Yep, the Hybrid-SACD I have is only 3 channel and stereo - great disc though! as is the Miles Davis Kind Of Blue
There are no 3.0 SACDs - all multichannel SACDs are either authored as 5.0 or 5.1 and your receiver will light up as such. Time Out was recorded on a 3-track multitrack machine, like a lot of music of that era, so the SACD has those 3 channels in the front (LF/C/RF) and reverbs in the rear channels.
I think the Sony mch SACD of Miles Davis' Kind of Blue is mixed the same way (with reverb in the rears) whereas other SACDs from a 3-channel multi are completely silent in the rears, like the AP Miles Davis (Seven Steps to Heaven, Someday My Prince Will Come) and Nat King Cole discs, but regardless of if the rears are silent or not, they're all 5.0 or 5.1 discs, spec-wise.
I think the Sony mch SACD of Miles Davis' Kind of Blue is mixed the same way (with reverb in the rears) whereas other SACDs from a 3-channel multi are completely silent in the rears, like the AP Miles Davis (Seven Steps to Heaven, Someday My Prince Will Come) and Nat King Cole discs, but regardless of if the rears are silent or not, they're all 5.0 or 5.1 discs, spec-wise.
My Miles Davis sacd states 5.1 / multi-ch on the back. SICP 10083
It fills the room with sound and is quite good, but not much 'discrete' material. Just a bit more separation than the 2 channel stereo. [sidenote: I've been playing Kind of Blue across multiple mixes and formats over the past 28 years since first falling in love with the album. It's in the running for top one or two albums I know best, and this SACD mix is amazing.]
The "DSD 3.0" previously referenced I think only refers to the original transfer source. Noted on the far right of the screenshot it mentions "SACD 4.0/5.1"
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quadrifonico
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ok ok ok 
you all have a point! i will attach screenshots
you all have a point! i will attach screenshots
quadrifonico
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Yes yes yes! I finally had a chance to check
and I want to thank you, my copy was really not genuine... It's a CD!
I already ordered a copy of the Sony, will comment on that when I listen 
. Thank you for making me notice, or I might have discovered who knows when 
If you have a Discogs account, thank the person on that Discogs post! It's the only reason I know about it. Hope things work out!Yes yes yes! I finally had a chance to check
quadrifonico
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I will
