Tears for Fears - "The Seeds of Love" (Steven Wilson 5.1 Remix out on October 9th!)

[minimumtumbleweed]

Why is the 1989 Bob Ludwig original master labeled a "remaster?"

I keep hearing people mention Bob Ludwig, but I don't see him anywhere on the original credits? Wasn't the album originally done by Bob Clearmountain?

 

[JediJoker]

I keep hearing people mention Bob Ludwig, but I don't see him anywhere on the original credits? Wasn't the album originally done by Bob Clearmountain?

Bob Clearmountain mixed two tracks (the others were mixed by co-producer David Bascombe), but it was mastered by Bob Ludwig.

 

[IMachine]

Something is strange with the title track.
Heard it PCM and will listen again in DTS-HD but there was a drop somewhere and the main vocals are buried in the mix. The other songs...superb!

 

[fredblue]

Bob Clearmountain mixed two tracks (the others were mixed by co-producer David Bascombe), but it was mastered by Bob Ludwig.

interesting wee factoid about Dave Bascombe, who was a consultant to Steven Wilson on the remix, he doesn't have too much surround mixing to his credit but one he was involved in was the Matt Bianco "Matt's Mood" SACD, which is one of my all-time favourite 5.1's. so yeah.. is he da man or wot!

 

[minimumtumbleweed]

Bob Clearmountain mixed two tracks (the others were mixed by co-producer David Bascombe), but it was mastered by Bob Ludwig.

Weird, its' hard to find that information anywhere. Good to know.

 

[fredblue]

Something is strange with the title track.
Heard it PCM and will listen again in DTS-HD but there was a drop somewhere and the main vocals are buried in the mix. The other songs...superb!

yes i noticed some elements maybe felt a bit recessed in the mix on that track in particular too.. but i've had to put the shiny new discs away for the time being as i've got mates coming round for drinkies in a bit and they'll only get gin or taramasalata or something equally yummy on the CDs, the wee scamps, so away they go until tomorrow! the CDs not the chips and dips! cheers to the tears for fears!

 

[minimumtumbleweed]

Me neither! I purchased there this box and John Lennon‘s Gimme Some Truth... never been so anxious!!!

Yeah, I've not had any experience with them in the past. Doesn't bode well that the page for the album says Buy Now: More stock coming soon and there hasn't been any change to the order status.

 

[minimumtumbleweed]

Something is strange with the title track.
Heard it PCM and will listen again in DTS-HD but there was a drop somewhere and the main vocals are buried in the mix. The other songs...superb!

Didn't SW mention that they had a lot of problems with that track? Some of the masters were missing or difficult to work with. I recall that they didn't even have the part at the beginning with the weird feedback noise, and they just had to use the original recording for that.

 

[sjcorne]

Didn't SW mention that they had a lot of problems with that track? Some of the masters were missing or difficult to work with. I recall that they didn't even have the part at the beginning with the weird feedback noise, and they just had to use the original recording for that.

Yeah, he had said they couldn't locate the pre-bounced tapes for that part and the drum kit in "Woman In Chains".
https://www.soundonsound.com/people/steven-wilson-remixing-classic-albums

 

[beerking]

Playing it now....Divine

 

[IMachine]

The Intro is the same but after the reversed drums the song starts a liiiitle too low in volume (equally One Of These Days - Pink Floyd)
At 2:29 there is a drop of the strings
At 2:41 trumpets are missing
At 2:51 the strings built-up is too loud

 

[IMachine]

And sometimes I have the feeling SW had to use different lead vocal takes

 

[Toto4Ever]

Hoping my Amazon order is dispatched this evening, if so, every chance of receiving tomorrow.....can't wait !

 

[Ick]

Ughhhhh my order from DeepDiscount hasn’t shipped and Amazon is saying estimated delivery Oct 27 - Nov 10!!

 

[Mcallister]

Hoping my Amazon order is dispatched this evening, if so, every chance of receiving tomorrow.....can't wait !

Likewise

 

[Strilo]

Something is strange with the title track.
Heard it PCM and will listen again in DTS-HD but there was a drop somewhere and the main vocals are buried in the mix. The other songs...superb!

I did notice that. I went back and boosted my center channel two clicks and it sounded much better.

 

[Lord British]

https://www.superdeluxeedition.com/...-for-fears-on-the-story-of-the-seeds-of-love/

 

[fthesoundguy]

Has anyone from Importcds not had theirs shipped yet? I'm a little disappointed to be honest. Preordered this two months ago.

 

[Toto4Ever]

Confirmation it's arriving tomorrow....

 

[minimumtumbleweed]

Well, nothing from MusicVaultz today... not sure what they're waiting for. Pretty disappointed in them; should have shipped out a few days ago, let alone on the actual release date. At this rate, I doubt it will go out until after Thanksgiving (Canada)... hope it'll be here before the end of October!