ALL ABOUT MUSIC #2 - Non Surround, Not Covered In Other Threads
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Here's one I wish was Quad but is definitely stereo only:
https://www.discogs.com/ZZ-Top-Fandango/release/13845391
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Fiona Apple EXTRAORDINARY MACHINE [EPIC DUALDISC/48/16 STEREO] EXTRAORDINARY INDEED!
Philip Spinner
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It's basically like a 4 lane highway. Two lanes north and two lanes south would be stereo. Four lanes all going north would be quad.
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I was looking for that diagram but couldn't find it. Thanks. The half track stereo in the diagram is what I always suspected were the King Biscuit Flower Hour programs, probably recorded that way because back then many radio stations still utilized half track machines. Simply a compatibility issue. You can play 2 track tapes on a 4 track deck but you can't play a 4 track tape on a 2 track machine. So these KBFH tapes would play at the station no matter what deck they were using. I'm sure you know all this Pupster but wanted to get this out for those who may not.
I have a little question maybe this thread would be good?
I download music from sites, I use three of them HDTracks, Acoustic Sounds and Native DSD. My PC is Ethernet connected to the network and the download speed is fast but almost all the time approx 3-4 tracks of an album fail. I go into my file folder, because you have to delete the failed tracks and try again, usually the same failed download happens again, but.........when I pull the Ethernet and retry via wireless always works.
It's obviously not a big problem, just weird, and I don't know the logical answer.
I download music from sites, I use three of them HDTracks, Acoustic Sounds and Native DSD. My PC is Ethernet connected to the network and the download speed is fast but almost all the time approx 3-4 tracks of an album fail. I go into my file folder, because you have to delete the failed tracks and try again, usually the same failed download happens again, but.........when I pull the Ethernet and retry via wireless always works.
It's obviously not a big problem, just weird, and I don't know the logical answer.
That's a good question; I'm not a network guy, but just thinking off the top of my head, could it be that you're using a cross-over cable instead of a straight through cable.
I know there' some network savvy folks that can help with this like @DuncanS.
I have the blue Ethernet cable going from my PC to an Ethernet switch box. It works really well and fast when I move files between hard drives etc, just that one situation it seems to be a little quirky.
As your set-up works well when it doesn't use the internet I suspect it is down to 'speed', but I can't prove it (might be complete B...….!). In that an Ethernet cable link is faster than Wi-Fi (assuming 100Mb/s on Ethernet 54Mb/s on Wi-Fi) and the time between the data packets is usually slower on Wi-Fi (a different protocol) also often more errors on Wi-Fi which adds in data retries and thus slows the internet connection down to the website. So I think you are seeing over-run/under-run errors via Ethernet-to-Internet, so either too much data requested too soon for the host website to download, or not enough arriving in time at your PC in time. I have had similar issues.
Hmmmm - did you all see this? Music Direct... SACD Mono and also on Vinyl. Cool....
I think that is it as you say, too much data requested too soon, because I have an optic fiber connection all the good modem, etc and when I do anything it works super good and fast, so it must mean the host website doesn't give as fast as I can take it, at least that is a viable answer and I think I'll go with that. If I download say 3 albums vs ethernet and 6 songs fail, and I disconnect and go to wifi it is still faster than all wifi.
Thanks Duncan.
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Markie, do you have FIOS? I just had my speed upgraded to 5G and 400 MHz .......am getting ready to download SOON!
OK, so literally just in the last several days, I have had a related problem. I use a cloud to store many of my music flac files. They are stored just like they are stored on my NAS. I'll have a folder, which is named like this:
Billy Joel - 52'nd Street (SACD MCH)
Then within the folder and the 7-8 songs, etc. STraight forward.
If I simply highlight the folder, and click download. Off it goes. Though, it zips the folder and contents first...which takes time. Then, it actually downloads the zipped file to my download folder.
Only, about 75% of the time, only 1 or 2 songs actually downloaded.
That said, if I do it differently....say open the folder, click all 7-8 songs and download just the songs (not the folder), they all seem to download.
So, what up with that?
Jay P.
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Well put (explained);
Welcome to the QQ forum Jay P.
Billboard is reporting that Primus will be doing a tour this summer where they will be playing the entirety of Rush's A Farewell to Kings. Could be interesting.... Here are the dates:
5/26 — Irving, TX @ The Pavilion at Toyota Music Factory *^
5/27 — Houston, TX @ Revention Music Center *^
5/29 — Austin, TX @ ACL Live at the Moody Theater *^
5/30 — New Orleans, LA @ Saenger Theater *^
6/01 — Asheville, NC @ ExploreAsheville.com Arena *^
6/03 — Orlando, FL @ Hard Rock Live Orlando *^
6/05 — Atlanta, GA @ Coca-Cola Roxy *^
6/06 — Charlotte, NC @ Charlotte Metro Credit Union Amphitheatre *^
6/07 — Raleigh, NC @ Red Hat Amphitheater *^
6/09 — Cincinnati, OH @ PNC Pavilion *^
6/10 — Columbus, OH @ Express Live! – Outdoor *^
6/12 — Manchester, TN @ Bonnaroo Arts And Music Festival
6/15 — Richmond, VA @ Virginia Credit Union LIVE! *^
6/16 — Baltimore, MD @ MECU Pavilion *^
6/17 — New York, NY @ Beacon Theatre *^
6/19 — Philadelphia, PA @ The Met Philadelphia *^
6/20 — Asbury Park, NJ @ The Stone Pony Summer Stage *^
6/21 — Essex Junction, VT @ Midway Lawn at Champlain Valley Exposition *^
6/23 — Boston, MA @ Rockland Trust Bank Pavilion *^
6/24 — Wallingford, CT @ Toyota Oakdale Theatre *^
6/26 — Sterling Heights, MI @ Michigan Lottery Amphitheatre at Freedom Hill *^
6/27 — Cleveland, OH @ Jacobs Pavilion at Nautica *^
6/28 — Pittsburgh, PA @ Stage AE – Outdoor *^
6/30 — Toronto, ON @ RBC Echo Beach *^
7/02 — Lafayette, NY @ Beak and Skiff Apple Orchards *
7/03 — Westbrook ME @ Main Savings Pavilion at Rock Row *
7/06 — Indianapolis, IN @ The Amphitheater at White River State Park *+
7/07 — Milwaukee, WI @ BMO Harris Pavilion *+
7/08 — Minneapolis, MN @ The Armory *+
7/10 — Chicago, IL @ The Chicago Theatre *+
7/11 — St Louis, MO @ Saint Louis Music Park *+
7/12 — Kansas City, MO @ CrossroadsKC *+
7/14 — Denver, CO @ The Mission Ballroom *+
7/15 — Salt Lake City, UT @ The Complex *+
7/17 — Berkeley, CA @ Greek Theater *+
7/18 — Los Angeles, CA @ Greek Theatre *+
7/19 — Las Vegas, NV @ Pearl Concert Theater at Palms Casino Resort *+
7/21 — Boise, ID @ Outlaw Field at Idaho Botanical Garden *+
7/23 — Bonner, MT @ KettleHouse Amphitheater *+
7/24 — Redmond, WA @ Marymoor Park *+
7/25 — Troutdale, OR @ Edgefield *+
7/28 — Spokane, WA @ Riverfront Park Amphitheater *+
7/29 — Bend, OR @ Les Schwab Amphitheater *+
7/31 — Paso Robles, CA @ Vina Robles Amphitheatre *+
8/01 — San Diego, CA @ Cal Coast Credit Union Open Air Theatre at SDSU *+
8/02 — Phoenix, AZ @ Arizona Federal Theatre *+
* w/ Wolfmother
^ w/ The Sword
+ w/ Battles
5/26 — Irving, TX @ The Pavilion at Toyota Music Factory *^
5/27 — Houston, TX @ Revention Music Center *^
5/29 — Austin, TX @ ACL Live at the Moody Theater *^
5/30 — New Orleans, LA @ Saenger Theater *^
6/01 — Asheville, NC @ ExploreAsheville.com Arena *^
6/03 — Orlando, FL @ Hard Rock Live Orlando *^
6/05 — Atlanta, GA @ Coca-Cola Roxy *^
6/06 — Charlotte, NC @ Charlotte Metro Credit Union Amphitheatre *^
6/07 — Raleigh, NC @ Red Hat Amphitheater *^
6/09 — Cincinnati, OH @ PNC Pavilion *^
6/10 — Columbus, OH @ Express Live! – Outdoor *^
6/12 — Manchester, TN @ Bonnaroo Arts And Music Festival
6/15 — Richmond, VA @ Virginia Credit Union LIVE! *^
6/16 — Baltimore, MD @ MECU Pavilion *^
6/17 — New York, NY @ Beacon Theatre *^
6/19 — Philadelphia, PA @ The Met Philadelphia *^
6/20 — Asbury Park, NJ @ The Stone Pony Summer Stage *^
6/21 — Essex Junction, VT @ Midway Lawn at Champlain Valley Exposition *^
6/23 — Boston, MA @ Rockland Trust Bank Pavilion *^
6/24 — Wallingford, CT @ Toyota Oakdale Theatre *^
6/26 — Sterling Heights, MI @ Michigan Lottery Amphitheatre at Freedom Hill *^
6/27 — Cleveland, OH @ Jacobs Pavilion at Nautica *^
6/28 — Pittsburgh, PA @ Stage AE – Outdoor *^
6/30 — Toronto, ON @ RBC Echo Beach *^
7/02 — Lafayette, NY @ Beak and Skiff Apple Orchards *
7/03 — Westbrook ME @ Main Savings Pavilion at Rock Row *
7/06 — Indianapolis, IN @ The Amphitheater at White River State Park *+
7/07 — Milwaukee, WI @ BMO Harris Pavilion *+
7/08 — Minneapolis, MN @ The Armory *+
7/10 — Chicago, IL @ The Chicago Theatre *+
7/11 — St Louis, MO @ Saint Louis Music Park *+
7/12 — Kansas City, MO @ CrossroadsKC *+
7/14 — Denver, CO @ The Mission Ballroom *+
7/15 — Salt Lake City, UT @ The Complex *+
7/17 — Berkeley, CA @ Greek Theater *+
7/18 — Los Angeles, CA @ Greek Theatre *+
7/19 — Las Vegas, NV @ Pearl Concert Theater at Palms Casino Resort *+
7/21 — Boise, ID @ Outlaw Field at Idaho Botanical Garden *+
7/23 — Bonner, MT @ KettleHouse Amphitheater *+
7/24 — Redmond, WA @ Marymoor Park *+
7/25 — Troutdale, OR @ Edgefield *+
7/28 — Spokane, WA @ Riverfront Park Amphitheater *+
7/29 — Bend, OR @ Les Schwab Amphitheater *+
7/31 — Paso Robles, CA @ Vina Robles Amphitheatre *+
8/01 — San Diego, CA @ Cal Coast Credit Union Open Air Theatre at SDSU *+
8/02 — Phoenix, AZ @ Arizona Federal Theatre *+
* w/ Wolfmother
^ w/ The Sword
+ w/ Battles
I have a similar 'issue' with googleDrive. If you request multiple files to download it doesn't always get them all, if you try to zip before downloading it takes literally hours, yet if you download one at a time its quick and error free. I think its all down to the amount of compute/bandwidth for the download stream given on the link, i.e. its not that great - so single file downloads work the best.
Gene, I kept meaning to comment on your pictures from South America.
It appears to be a Grundig or Telefunken console, probably early '60's vintage. What brand was it and where did you find this relic?
My first "system" was a Grundig console that I dissembled. Crowbar in hand, I removed the receiver portion and speakers. Tossed the turntable and cabinet. Every connection for source units was 5 pin DIN plugs. There was no space in my bedroom for another piece of furniture.
The receiver portion had a tube (valve) SOCKET that had a short, because of bakelite (or lack thereof) no longer insulating between two of the contacts. I could not find a tube socket that mounted the same way, being a German design. Not even from Newark or Allied Electronics (Allied Radio industrial div.) I wound up using acid core solder to attach the socket to the chassis. Rube Goldberg would have been proud. Then, rosin core solder to make the connection. It worked perfectly once the shorted socket was replaced.
Within a few years, this was replaced by component hi-fi and Quad gear. Later, MC cartridge tuner/pre/power amps, video & digital discs.
Memories light the corners of my mind.
FYI: more often than not, I'm on QQ from my phone and often don't have time to post. Then, I often forget to post, although I've clicked on like. Although I'm retired, I lead a very busy life. Please don't think I'm angry or have left QQ, or even the planet, if you've not seen me post for awhile.
It appears to be a Grundig or Telefunken console, probably early '60's vintage. What brand was it and where did you find this relic?
My first "system" was a Grundig console that I dissembled. Crowbar in hand, I removed the receiver portion and speakers. Tossed the turntable and cabinet. Every connection for source units was 5 pin DIN plugs. There was no space in my bedroom for another piece of furniture.
The receiver portion had a tube (valve) SOCKET that had a short, because of bakelite (or lack thereof) no longer insulating between two of the contacts. I could not find a tube socket that mounted the same way, being a German design. Not even from Newark or Allied Electronics (Allied Radio industrial div.) I wound up using acid core solder to attach the socket to the chassis. Rube Goldberg would have been proud. Then, rosin core solder to make the connection. It worked perfectly once the shorted socket was replaced.
Within a few years, this was replaced by component hi-fi and Quad gear. Later, MC cartridge tuner/pre/power amps, video & digital discs.
Memories light the corners of my mind.
FYI: more often than not, I'm on QQ from my phone and often don't have time to post. Then, I often forget to post, although I've clicked on like. Although I'm retired, I lead a very busy life. Please don't think I'm angry or have left QQ, or even the planet, if you've not seen me post for awhile.
