Much people give this mix a 10/10.
10/10 is for me the best of the best ..... reference. Is it really?
In first time I was very angry. I heard it loud, but there was only a small dynamic and my subwoofer was without work. Friendly I say 7,5 / 10 Now you are able to do me stony ones.
Well I also think, that it could have done better, but as I mentioned it is the source of Yes music. The sound is not overwhelming on their 70s productions, where the most 70s releases of other bands have a warm and fat sound.
Steven Wilson has a difficult job to do, about this recordings as they are full of sounds. Everything is happening at the same time (git, thousand voices, keys, bass). All members of Yes are equal important. They all want to be heard really well.
Yes is my second band of all time behind Genesis. But I never loved Yes for their record sound.
So I should not have too high expectations in the 5.1 releases. But perhaps another Yes 5.1 releases will suprise me in a good way.
I have rated with a 9. As for the pure product I had given an 8, but it is YES .
But in the end it is always the same. Everyone has his own opinion, and I like it that way.
Perhaps this time SW had too much respect?
Boy, you Germans are a tough crowd to please. @: Fair enough.
I love Steven Wilson(in a manly way of course) so I will do nothing to deter that handsome & skinny lad from England, in applying his 5.1 acumen on more classic recordings. I gave it a 10 and my bloody disc hasn't even arrived yet! (AND...I will give it a 10 when I hear the damn thing!)
Ok, this is the serious part of my post:
Although CTTE was recorded on a 16 track, there was a fair bit of overdubbing on the 16 track master, including stuff like recording the organ on a 2.0 tape machine remotely, then flowing those tracks into the 16 channel. The intro of birds, keys & silly noises was also a buch of overdubbing, so:
Stevn Wilson didn't have a full discrete source to work with and he may have been limited in what he could do in the mix? Some sound sources were set with others on given channels.
Word has it that the ELP 5.1 SW mixes got hammered here too, for me those two ELP 5.1 mixes are heaven.
I wonder what our friend from Canada, Otto thinks of the mix???
End of serious input.
Bonus input:
To all Steven Wilson 5.1 supporters(like yours truly) should we fire up the boiling cauldron of oil and warm up the tar with the feathers? We seem to have some heretics emerging within our midsts! :yikes
Boy, you Germans are a tough crowd to please. @: Fair enough.
I love Steven Wilson(in a manly way of course) so I will do nothing to deter that handsome & skinny lad from England, in applying his 5.1 acumen on more classic recordings. I gave it a 10 and my bloody disc hasn't even arrived yet! (AND...I will give it a 10 when I hear the damn thing!)
Ok, this is the serious part of my post:
Although CTTE was recorded on a 16 track, there was a fair bit of overdubbing on the 16 track master, including stuff like recording the organ on a 2.0 tape machine remotely, then flowing those tracks into the 16 channel. The intro of birds, keys & silly noises was also a buch of overdubbing, so:
Stevn Wilson didn't have a full discrete source to work with and he may have been limited in what he could do in the mix? Some sound sources were set with others on given channels.
Word has it that the ELP 5.1 SW mixes got hammered here too, for me those two ELP 5.1 mixes are heaven.
I wonder what our friend from Canada, Otto thinks of the mix???
End of serious input.
Bonus input:
To all Steven Wilson 5.1 supporters(like yours truly) should we fire up the boiling cauldron of oil and warm up the tar with the feathers? We seem to have some heretics emerging within our midsts! :yikes
Oh I forgot sometimes, when I voted 10 on so much other releases, that I am german.
I promise to get better and vote from now on only with a 1!
Now serious:
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Please note, one of your fellow countrymen, "mam" gave it a 7.5. So I was including both of you. Plus, my best friend(who has German parents) is also very very picky, so I do think we are on to something here... And Germans do make exceptional beer, by the way....
About you voting: I not really worried too much about a person voting who has no mouth(please see your avatar). Its the ones with big mouths, mostly people from New York that I worry about...:yikes
...my best friend(who has German parents) is also very very picky ... And Germans do make exceptional beer, by the way....
After the initial ecstatic reviews I was expecting... well, too much apparently. I must say I'm a little bit underwhelmed. Music-wise of course there's no problem. It's a solid 10, one of the highlights of '70s prog rock in my humble opinion. So when I got the blu-ray in my mailbox, I was ready for an amazing journey. I poured myself a whisky, sat down and... had to stop the disc after a minute or two because there was just too much bass going on, I could hardly hear the other instruments. I fiddled around with the setup of my surround system, turning the subwoofer volume down to almost zero. OK, this time I did hear the instruments, but the surround somehow didn't sound very discreet. Only during quieter moments, such as "I get up I get down" could I really enjoy the various instruments and overdubbed voices that came from all the corners of the room. Yes, there are a few moments of glory - the new mix of America is pretty good - but most of the time I think this disc sounds OK, just above average, but there is no "wow" factor as far as I am concerned. A 10 for music, a 6 for surround, that makes it an 8. Which isn't bad, but I think it could have been a lot better.