Once there was a thread...

[Bob Romano]

Yesterday I was asked to remove the mention by Thom of his ATMOS mix on Sob Rock by John Mayer. Unfortunately for us all, Thom's mix is no longer featured for that title. I couldn't figure how to edit the thread and still have it make sense so it was removed completely. Sorry for any confusion.

 

[PK]

Bummer...

 

[mrcond]

Bummer...

Serious bummer, since the prior mix was better than the current one (no disrespect intended to whomever may have done the current mix). Music industry politics, it would seem.

 

[mrcond]

Well this is disappointing:

https://www.imore.com/john-mayer-personally-fixes-dolby-atmos-mix-latest-album
I probably should just let it rest, but they got it wrong, and it is such a shame that the original excellent mix will probably never be heard again. No one here was complaining about that mix.

 

[PK]

Like me some Mayer but...personally, my interest is quickly fading...

 

[J. PUPSTER]

Well this is disappointing:

https://www.imore.com/john-mayer-personally-fixes-dolby-atmos-mix-latest-album
I probably should just let it rest, but they got it wrong, and it is such a shame that the original excellent mix will probably never be heard again. No one here was complaining about that mix.

Can't speak to the Atmos mix, never heard it, but this could open up a whole mess of a can a worms

 

[elee532]

Wow, sounds like Thom is getting thrown under the bus by Mr. Mayer?? Strange!

 

[beerking]

So Mr Mayer is now an expert on how Dolby Atmos should sound.
Having listened to both releases, who is he kidding.
The new release is a million miles away from Thoms fantastic mix.

I wonder who really put the spanner in the works?

 

[Sal1950]

I couldn't figure how to edit the thread and still have it make sense so it was removed completely. Sorry for any confusion.

I thought I was having another senior moment.

 

[beerking]

I thought I was having another senior moment.

It's not just you Sal....

 

[perzon57]

So Mr Mayer is now an expert on how Dolby Atmos should sound.
Having listened to both releases, who is he kidding.
The new release is a million miles away from Thoms fantastic mix.

I wonder who really put the spanner in the works?

The new mix is basically a 5.1 mix,and not a good one either.No reason to listen to it or buy i if it should be released on disc.

 

[JonUrban]

That's horrible news. 'Fixing' a mix to make it more stereo-sounding? Why bother? Just listen to the stereo mix. ThomC is an artist at what he does and it's a damn shame that the recording artist cannot respect his work and not stand up for what was produced instead of caving to a bunch of whining fans with little brains

 

[ar surround]

What is really disturbing is that any mix on a streaming service such as Apple Music can simply 'go away' and never be heard again.

 

[Bob Romano]

What is really disturbing is that any mix on a streaming service such as Apple Music can simply 'go away' and never be heard again.

That's horrible news. 'Fixing' a mix to make it more stereo-sounding? Why bother? Just listen to the stereo mix. ThomC is an artist at what he does and it's a damn shame that the recording artist cannot respect his work and not stand up for what was produced instead of caving to a bunch of whining fans with little brains

Agreed. Thom's work has always been really great and some of my fave mixes.

 

[ar surround]

How many here are sick and tired of the term, 'true-to-the-original-mix'? Like Jon said, "Why bother?" I enjoy what SW has done with his MC remixes. The music sounds like the originals, yet the mixes are more interesting and the sound quality and EQ are much improved. Oh, and I'll never complain about an alternate mix being thrown out there as a bonus.

 

[jimfisheye]

I want to say it's not so much a demand for a "true to the original mix" but more of a "You need to at least not make this sound like amateur work and really obvious that you've never even heard the original yourself - mix". Those are the ones that make you say "Come on, man!" Fidelity paling compared to the stereo version is another show stopper.

Well, now I want to hear the 'secret' mix you're all talking about!

Perhaps someone in the industry was thinking about those card games and collecting the rare cards? (Magic and whatever the new ones are.) Anyway, it sounds like the collectors game just leveled up here!

 

[kap'n krunch]

What is really disturbing is that any mix on a streaming service such as Apple Music can simply 'go away' and never be heard again.

it's not disturbing, we all knew that, the only thing that is permanent are physical releases and sometimes having a non artist approved mix is better than none, e.g. Eric Johnson's DVD-A which has never been re-released on MCH with an approved mix.

 

[Sal1950]

What is really disturbing is that any mix on a streaming service such as Apple Music can simply 'go away' and never be heard again.

That's why my harddrive rips are always dutifully backed-up.
If it's something special I'll hold on to the disc forever.

 

[DuncanS]

Its the problem with streaming, you rent the ability to listen to something, but have no control, so it can be removed/modified at whim, and if the musician sees any money thats a miracle! You may as well listen to radio, its free but pays its dues!

 

[LuvMyQuad]

That's why my harddrive rips are always dutifully backed-up.
If it's something special I'll hold on to the disc forever.

The problem is, there is currently no way to capture a streamed Atmos mix.